TonyGee Posted November 25, 2020 Author Posted November 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, clivegto said: I bought a 1100efe motor recently for £650, though that wasn't too expensive as I have seen cranks for sale at £500. I know someone who got a gs1000 motor recently for less than 1/2 that. There are still bargains out there there just not that easy to find. gona have to sell some of the kids and start saving up for one Quote
clivegto Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, TonyGee said: gona have to sell some of the kids and start saving up for one Don't go looking at 1052 engines then. 1 Quote
no class Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 9:20 AM, Dezza said: The power delivery of the aircooled lump is 'intoxicating' , this is true....., all thanks to the 66 mm stroke . 1 Quote
Gixer1460 Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 5 hours ago, TonyGee said: gonna have to sell all some of the kids and start saving up for one Life does have its bonuses - fixed your quote LOL! Quote
TonyGee Posted November 25, 2020 Author Posted November 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gixer1460 said: Life does have its bonuses - fixed your quote LOL! ha ha yeah theirs 7 of em Quote
Blubber Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, TonyGee said: ha ha yeah theirs 7 of em sell them in parts...... if we are still talking about bikes. If your "kids" are the biological types... ignore my first suggestion. Dont want to come over all Jason Voorhees from the movie Friday the 13th Edited November 25, 2020 by Blubber Clarification Quote
Joseph Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 4:10 PM, no class said: ..... great engine ! aside from the poor oil pressure , stator output , poor clutch basket , starter clutch issues ......and a few other issues but who’s counting They don't need high oil pressure because of the roller bearing crank Quote
no class Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Joseph said: They don't need high oil pressure because of the roller bearing crank yeah.... I know ..... 1 Quote
Swirl Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, Joseph said: They don't need high oil pressure because of the roller bearing crank It does when you bolt a turbo to it 1 Quote
TonyGee Posted November 25, 2020 Author Posted November 25, 2020 i like engines with a roller bearing crank. yeah i know they can twist but but a pretty strong bottom end. Quote
wraith Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, TonyGee said: ha ha yeah theirs 7 of em You don't have enough bike projects on the go, if you've had time for 7 kids Quote
TonyGee Posted November 25, 2020 Author Posted November 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, wraith said: You don't have enough bike projects on the go, if you've had time for 7 kids when you have that many kids you cant afford many projects most of em have gone but still got 2 at home, the 2 bloody girls 1 Quote
Swirl Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, TonyGee said: when you have that many kids you cant afford many projects most of em have gone but still got 2 at home, the 2 bloody girls I've got 5 kids and 5 bike projects 1 Quote
Joseph Posted November 26, 2020 Posted November 26, 2020 23 hours ago, no class said: yeah.... I know ..... Sounded like you didn't Quote
KATANAMANGLER Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 I've got a tuned 1216 B12 engine ( 150bhp) in my slabby race bike and its great. I have a mildly tuned 1230 EFE (130bhp) motor in my Katana and it is also great. The air-cooled motor has more low down torque but they are both great engines. Once upon a time it was cheaper to get an oil cooled engine than to rebuild an air cooled motor but that is no longer true. Finding a cheap oil boiler that doesn't need a refresh is getting rare. They are now fetching the same money as AC motors too. Rebuilding an OC to a decent standard isn't any cheaper than an AC rebuild either. The only advantage might be that you'll get a bit more out of an OC motor with a standard crank and clutch than you will with an AC in similar standard bottom end trim. 1 Quote
TonyGee Posted November 29, 2020 Author Posted November 29, 2020 if i go for an 1100 AC engine it would be left standard, im not bothered about having a 130 bhp im happy with an engine that has lots of torque and low down grunt Quote
KATANAMANGLER Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 3 hours ago, TonyGee said: im not bothered about having a 130 bhp Only people with 100bhp say that but everyone knows they are lying. 5 Quote
Swirl Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 6 hours ago, KATANAMANGLER said: Only people with 100bhp say that but everyone knows they are lying. Quote
RGSX Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 I had no idea the 1100 was in short supply, I came across one last year summer that I could've picked up for a couple hundred . In hindsight I should've bought it as I recall four years ago I two offers over $1k for my engine when it still had two broken plugs still frozen in the head and hadn't run in 25-30 years. Rebuilt head, RS36 mikuni's and headers it has amazing mid range torque and an exceptional tuner, my mechanic figures 130 rear wheel hp. With with an overbore he estimates it'll be somewhere around 140-145hp at the rear. I'll definitely need to upgrade the clutch. Quote
wraith Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 These a nice cheep gsx1100efe with carbs on that site Going cheep at £800 Just seen it nothing to do with me Quote
Jonny Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) They are both good engines - I have a 1230cc EFE motor in my GS750 and have owned several tuned GSXRs over the years. But the EFE motor looks better and sounds better IMHO. Edited December 1, 2020 by Jonny 2 Quote
Jonny Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, wraith said: These a nice cheep gsx1100efe with carbs on that site Going cheep at £800 Just seen it nothing to do with me 4 days to go and 2 bids. Let's see what it makes in the end... 2 Quote
johnr Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 3:10 PM, no class said: ..... great engine ! aside from the poor oil pressure , stator output , poor clutch basket , starter clutch issues ......and a few other issues but who’s counting although to be fair, they dont have poor oil pressure, they have low oil pressure, but they only have that because thats all they need, i think time has proven that the low oil pressure isnt really a reliability issue. poor stator output on gsx's is a bit of an urban myth, the problems with reliability of the charging system were due to the design of the charging circuit using a phase that was switched by the headlight. bikes run with the lights always on had fewer charging problems because all three phases were working the same, and bikes with the reg rec wired directly to all three alt phases were equally untroubled.. the loom was the problem, not the stator, clutches suffered because these engines took so much abuse that eventually something had to give. starter motors, well, theyre a consumable, you might as well say spark plugs werent great..... ;-) 2 Quote
TonyGee Posted December 1, 2020 Author Posted December 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, johnr said: although to be fair, they dont have poor oil pressure, they have low oil pressure, but they only have that because thats all they need, i think time has proven that the low oil pressure isnt really a reliability issue. poor stator output on gsx's is a bit of an urban myth, the problems with reliability of the charging system were due to the design of the charging circuit using a phase that was switched by the headlight. bikes run with the lights always on had fewer charging problems because all three phases were working the same, and bikes with the reg rec wired directly to all three alt phases were equally untroubled.. the loom was the problem, not the stator, clutches suffered because these engines took so much abuse that eventually something had to give. starter motors, well, theyre a consumable, you might as well say spark plugs werent great..... ;-) agree John, yeah one of the things i did on the 750 was sort out the bodged wiring and do away with the light loop, its still running an original oem R/R and it still charges perfect (for now) the old motors where over engineered which makes them last, the engine in mine is so quiet for a 40 year old not like my 1200 bandit engine. 1 Quote
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