Oil coolers: branded v generic. Is the extra cost justified?

[Dezza]

I am going to buy a new 19 row 330 mm wide cooler (AN-10). As we know, generic items are freely available on the interwebs for about 40 quid a pop, whereas something like a HEL works out at double that. (Earls and it's just fucking silly money so no point in discussing that.) Has anyone any direct experience in quality differences between generic and branded coolers? Or do HEL just get the 40 quid ones in bulk, put a sticker on, and then offload them to mugs like me for a massive profit margin?

[R1guy]

I too would be interested in this. I just bought a £40 one....

 

[Duckndive]

46 minutes ago, Dezza said:

I am going to buy a new 19 row 330 mm wide cooler (AN-10). As we know, generic items are freely available on the interwebs for about 40 quid a pop, whereas something like a HEL works out at double that. (Earls and it's just fucking silly money so no point in discussing that.) Has anyone any direct experience in quality differences between generic and branded coolers?

I,ve used ting tong ones with no issues ...on bikes cars ,excavators and other mobile plant .

Or do HEL just get the 40 quid ones in bulk, put a sticker on, and then offload them to mugs like me for a massive profit margin?

Well they don't make them themselves or do they ?

[MeanBean49]

Personally I always use JJC race and rally, there APS coolers are as good quality as earls and HEL but loads cheaper.

[fatblokeonbandit]

this ones been there 9 years now, cant remember the make but it was very cheap as I wouldn't pay £250 for a Hel kit.

 

 

 

[Dezza]

Looks like I'll go with a 40 quid job. The last oil cooler I bought was about 30 years back and it's still going strong. I suspect that taking care to mount the things correctly and to route the pipes well have more of an effect on the likelihood of failure than the brand of cooler.

[wraith]

+1 with the cheep one, it's only a name you pay the large extra for, if you really need with the money you save get a sticker 

[Crass]

7 hours ago, Dezza said:

......... Or do HEL just get the 40 quid ones in bulk, put a sticker on, and then offload them to mugs like me for a massive profit margin?

Yebbut the sticker makes it work twice as good, hence the price hike

[jonny1bump]

For cooling efficiency cannot beat curved proved by radtec when they did work for Triumph. 

Just adding my 10 pence. 

Not saying anything wrong with items shown here before someone gets on there highly strung high horse.

Edited February 2, 2019 by jonny1bump

[Leblowski]

I have got a cheap china Eblag oilcooler on my bakker for quit some years did the isle of man and stil in one piece if i recal correct it was 80 quid so i wouldnt buy an oilcooler for 200 plus quid myself

[CockneyRick]

Had the Cheeepies on the SF, Yoshi, Efe, Drag bike & whatever comes next. Not a single problem.

Only issue i had was the cheep AN10 connector to it that blew off on shakedown & dumped 3L of oil over the garage floor  

[Leblowski]

8 hours ago, CockneyRick said:

Had the Cheeepies on the SF, Yoshi, Efe, Drag bike & whatever comes next. Not a single problem.

Only issue i had was the cheep AN10 connector to it that blew off on shakedown & dumped 3L of oil over the garage floor  

Even the AN10 connectors and hoses wich came with the cooler are perfect on mine

[Cobby]

Anyone interested in a 13 row cooler there's a couple of brand new ones for sale on sphock for £10 each (not me selling them)

[Dezza]

Got a 40 quid 19 row job coming soon and a new 10 row 115mm Mocal for 36 quid (head cooler going in seat unit) but that will need a couple of -8 adaptors. What's sphock? Something from Star Trek?

[Cobby]

its similar to Gumtree 

[Allspeeds]

I’ve bought two coolers on eblag new, one for a head cooler one for an oil cooler both about £40 delivered look nice quality and I’ve bought mogul and hel before only slip up I made is that there AN10 so I’ve bought some AN8 adaptors of  torques 

[Allspeeds]

Only thing I’m tempted to do before fitting is flush them out to clear any manufacturing debris as the Chinese quality control might vary 

[clivegto]

I had problems with them busting on the Scratcher (turbo) went through about 3. Lot of vibrations through the braced 1986 gsxr 750 repaired frame. Solved problem by using Suzuki oil cooler rubber mounts rather than home made or direct bolt to frame at top mount like a lot of the after market ones.

Edited February 5, 2019 by clivegto

[R1guy]

13 minutes ago, clivegto said:

I had problems with them busting on the Scratcher (turbo) went through about 3. Lot of vibrations through the braced 1986 gsxr 750 repaired frame. Solved problem by using Suzuki oil cooler rubber mounts rather than home made or direct bolt to frame at top mount like a lot of the after market ones.

These babies are your friend 

[CockneyRick]

Always rubber mount mine top & bottom as a matter of course!

[Gixer1460]

Old style Mini Exhaust Bobbins work for me - stud at each end and rubber joining them.

[Dezza]

I use the old fashioned ones as used on about 99 different Yamaha models from the 1960s to the 1990s, the ones with a metal inner sleeve. You can get replicas in bulk on ebays, which is nice, as I always thought Yamaha did a smashing grommet