jameskat Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) Forgive my ignorance but where is the fuel in line? If it has run well with that fuel regulator I would stick with it, fuel regulators like that are simple and fairly reliable. Edited October 2, 2016 by jameskat adding words, mind works faster than the hands Quote
wombat258 Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 That is a Bosch 0280160526 fuel regulator in an adaptor housing. Replace it with the same part. They are normally very reliable. I can only see the boost/vacuum port (left), and one of the fuel lines (right). One fuel line is out of image view. 1 Quote
slingy1157 Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 I'd be heading off the the nearest self serve auto wreckers and grab something like this for a few quid Look at this on Eblag http://www.Eblag.com.au/itm/162087962374 Plenty similar out there. Like its been said, I take it the return line is on the otherside of the fitting? Quote
jameskat Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Normally the return line is the center one, which i can see, but it may not be, won't be the first time I am wrong. Quote
slingy1157 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Nope your right, the return line is the centre one , my bad. The fuel comes in from the rail from the side and pressurises the underside of the diaphram. Once the pressure is high enough to lift the diaphram the adjoined centre needle valve lifts and lets fuel pass back to the tank via the centre connection. But i wouldnt like to rely on that for this setup as thats a reg normally fitted staight into a purpose designed fuel rail that had both inlet and return together on the bottom, now mounted in some sort of custom adapter. So anything coukd be happening. Quote
Gixer1460 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 8 hours ago, slingy1157 said: But i wouldnt like to rely on that for this setup as thats a reg normally fitted staight into a purpose designed fuel rail that had both inlet and return together on the bottom, now mounted in some sort of custom adapter. So anything coukd be happening. I doubt it, as why would you have a hose clamp end, if it screwed into a rail? The thread is std. metric and clamps the reg to a bracket where ever you want it. Quote
slingy1157 Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, Gixer1460 said: I doubt it, as why would you have a hose clamp end, if it screwed into a rail? The thread is std. metric and clamps the reg to a bracket where ever you want it. No i mean the regulator thst SRR is using is this one. https://goo.gl/images/m3BUrb Which is designed to fit into a purpose designed rail but SRR is using it With a housing to give it hose bard connections. Better to just use a reg with hose barb connections is all i was getting at Edited October 5, 2016 by slingy1157 Bloody phone typing Quote
Screwriverracing Posted October 11, 2016 Author Posted October 11, 2016 Right got my new fpr , just need to confirm where to connect various items as I disconnected all of them and have forgotten where they goi i.e. To Plenum, or after the throttle bodies on inlet track. 1. Fuel pressure regulator. 2. Wastegate. 3. Bov. 4. Map sensor. 5 . Boost gauge. thanks in advance for the help. Cheers SRR Quote
Arttu Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 1. Fuel pressure regulator - after TBs 2. Wastegate - usually plenum, can be connected also after TBs 3. BOV - after TBs 4. MAP sensor - after TBs (unless the ECU setup is something less typical) 5. Boost gauge - whichever. If the gauge shows only positive pressure connect to plenum. If it shows also vacuum connect after TBs. Quote
Gixer1460 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Arttu said: 1. Fuel pressure regulator - after TBs There is some debate about this - if the FPR is capable of reduced pressure due to vacuum AND the fuel map accommodates that change its fine but my preference is fixed pressure NA rising with boost sensed from plenum ...... but either works LOL 2. Wastegate - usually plenum, can be connected also after TBs Again prefer plenum purely as there is more space for connections. 3. BOV - after TBs Correct 4. MAP sensor - after TBs (unless the ECU setup is something less typical) Agreed 5. Boost gauge - whichever. If the gauge shows only positive pressure connect to plenum. If it shows also vacuum connect after TBs. Even if it does show vacuum i'd still put it in the plenum as you are really only interested in the boost aspect? Added to the conversation. Quote
Arttu Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 37 minutes ago, Gixer1460 said: 1. Fuel pressure regulator - after TBs There is some debate about this - if the FPR is capable of reduced pressure due to vacuum AND the fuel map accommodates that change its fine but my preference is fixed pressure NA rising with boost sensed from plenum ...... but either works LOL Well, yes, either works. But normal practise with EFI is connect it after TBs. Or to be more precise, to the same point where the injectors inject. Idea there is to keep pressure across the injector constant so that injected fuel amount will depend only on injector pulse length. Sure it will work also plenum referenced but then you need to compensate pressure variance with fuel table tuning. Though it probably isn't any significant problem in most of the cases it's one unnecessary variable for tuning. And with large injectors it might make idle tuning more difficult since injector flow will increase on vacuum. 1 Quote
Screwriverracing Posted October 21, 2016 Author Posted October 21, 2016 Thanks Arttu and gixer1460. Cheers SRR Quote
martyngsxr Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 that bike brings back some memories of when i was working at aps and the screw river racing lads pulled up and you decided it was time for a new rear tyre and did a burnout out the back on the cobbles Quote
Screwriverracing Posted February 1, 2017 Author Posted February 1, 2017 Still nothing happening. But I found this clip the other day Cheers SRR 6 Quote
Fazz711 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Always liked that turbo EFE. Glad to hear you still have it. Hope you get it sorted Quote
Captain Chaos Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 10 hours ago, Screwriverracing said: Still nothing happening. But I found this clip the other day Cheers SRR it's a bit smokey, the rings are fucked 1 Quote
martyngsxr Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 the last bit of that video was the day in question out the back of aps in stokes croft Quote
R1guy Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 It looks like you and @Paulm have the same issue with front brake calipers sticking on 1 Quote
Paulm Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 2 hours ago, R1guy said: It looks like you and @Paulm have the same issue with front brake calipers sticking on Yes it happens quite often to me!! Lol Quote
Screwriverracing Posted February 2, 2017 Author Posted February 2, 2017 9 hours ago, R1guy said: It looks like you and @Paulm have the same issue with front brake calipers sticking on Could be, but did you notice the hand gear shifts. Cheers SRR Quote
Screwriverracing Posted March 2, 2017 Author Posted March 2, 2017 Update. Rang omex today to see about using one of there ecu's. when I mentioned it was going on a bike, they said it wouldn't work. Apparently they have tried it but because a bike goes from a slow turn over speed to say 1500 rpm there system can't cope with it. And the other point was about the size of trigger wheel, the larger the better. so it's back to the drawing board to make a decision on the ecu. Really want to use a motec but to pricey for me, and Cant seem to find any reasonably priced secondhand ones. Cheers SRR Quote
Gixer1460 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 If you want to spend that sort of money i'd suggest looking at a https://www.diyautotune.com/product/ms3-pro-standalone-ecu-only/ A very well featured unit and proven waterproof so good on a bike whereas a lot of the others are only 'shower resistant' Not as cheap as they used to be but compared to others its almost comparable to a MoTec if not surpassing it in some areas! Quote
Screwriverracing Posted March 3, 2017 Author Posted March 3, 2017 Thanks Tombola, some interesting reading. Another option is to get a ecu from a hayabusa or gsxr and have it flashed pro's. 1. Readily available 2. Quite cheap secondhand. 3. Manufacture have spent lots of money sorting them. Cons. Quote
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