Tony Nitrous Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Has this been posted before? Anyone have any more info on it ? 9 Quote
DAZ Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) I think I have seen a picture of the engine before after mentioning Allen Millyard's creations in a post but not all the ones you've posted ,on the Zeds and KH strokers he's created its relatively ( ! ! ) easy to alter the press fit cranks to extend the number of cylinders and rephase the firing order ,do you know how this one was down? Great pics thanks for sharing them Edit : found it on you tube " how to build Suzuki Gsx r 1700 six cylinder " user BusaSrad Eskedal Edited January 5 by DAZ 4 Quote
Dezza Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Anyone know who actuallly built the oil-cooled six? Obviously, most on OSS want the details as to how it was done . 1 Quote
Joseph Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Looks more like an aircooled 6 with an oilcooled head 4 Quote
Duckndive Posted January 5 Posted January 5 There's loads of pics on FaceAche he built a 5 cylinder busa before the 6 His you tube channel is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxO1aZ2wJdnIgGI9ohBm3Cw 3 Quote
clivegto Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Looks like a air cooled bottom end. We had a six cylinder GS on the OSS stand at Stafford. 2 Quote
Gixer1460 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Joseph said: Looks more like an aircooled 6 with an oilcooled head Does indeed - and that would be the logical way to do it - a press together crank makes the bottom end 'easy' whilst the head gets the 'cut and shut' mods with split cams etc. Although clever and no doubt well executed, none of them address the issue that *onda designed out - hanging the rotor / alternator / ignition off the end of the crank making a wide engine even wider - the CBX was little wider than a GS1000 where it mattered! Bearing in mind how easy it is to deck GSX engine cases when racing, these must be getting close in spirited road use? Looks like an external elec. oil pump is included - not a bad idea with an AC bottom end ! Quote
DAZ Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Duckndive said: There's loads of pics on FaceAche he built a 5 cylinder busa before the 6 His you tube channel is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxO1aZ2wJdnIgGI9ohBm3Cw Thanks for that this I can't figure out how to post a link on this stupid cheap tablet , but tbh it's probably me that's stupid not the tablet..... Quote
Duckndive Posted January 5 Posted January 5 its best watched on old skool stuff like a PC Part one bottom end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiovzJarBi4 1 Quote
Swiss Toni Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 hours ago, clivegto said: Looks like a air cooled bottom end. We had a six cylinder GS on the OSS stand at Stafford. I was just going to mention that one. I’d like to know more about it! Quote
clivegto Posted January 5 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Swiss Toni said: I was just going to mention that one. I’d like to know more about it! I did have a good chat with him on the Friday night while consuming lots of beer. It's based on a 750, crank is just pressed together and the cams are cut and shut using interference slugs no welding. He's a good engineer just did it to see if he could. @davecaraknows him better so might be able to tell more. 1 Quote
inmate Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Had a chat with Graham, I think it is, at Stafford. He has dozens of photos of his engine build, all done by hand, even cutting the engine cases. Clever lad, hopefully @davecaracan ask him to put up a build thread. 2 Quote
Swiss Toni Posted January 5 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, inmate said: Had a chat with Graham, I think it is, at Stafford. He has dozens of photos of his engine build, all done by hand, even cutting the engine cases. Clever lad, hopefully @davecaracan ask him to put up a build thread. That’s an idea! 1 Quote
imago Posted January 6 Posted January 6 12 hours ago, inmate said: Had a chat with Graham, I think it is, at Stafford. He has dozens of photos of his engine build, all done by hand, even cutting the engine cases. Clever lad, hopefully @davecaracan ask him to put up a build thread. That was the thing which impressed me most when I was talking to Graham about it. Very simple techniques and tools used, but done with a great deal of skill and knowledge. Quote
Breadman Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Enginuity........if you can make it work, just do it. Quote
johnr Posted January 8 Posted January 8 On 1/5/2024 at 1:19 PM, Gixer1460 said: Does indeed - and that would be the logical way to do it - a press together crank makes the bottom end 'easy' whilst the head gets the 'cut and shut' mods with split cams etc. Although clever and no doubt well executed, none of them address the issue that *onda designed out - hanging the rotor / alternator / ignition off the end of the crank making a wide engine even wider - the CBX was little wider than a GS1000 where it mattered! Bearing in mind how easy it is to deck GSX engine cases when racing, these must be getting close in spirited road use? Looks like an external elec. oil pump is included - not a bad idea with an AC bottom end ! alternatively, if you used a set of 750 aircooled cases, theyre a shell crank motor so you could use a stretched oilcooled crank as 750 aircooled cases are everywhere propping shed doors open and stopping canal barges from drifting away..... Quote
clivegto Posted January 8 Posted January 8 25 minutes ago, johnr said: alternatively, if you used a set of 750 aircooled cases, theyre a shell crank motor so you could use a stretched oilcooled crank as 750 aircooled cases are everywhere propping shed doors open and stopping canal barges from drifting away..... Oil cooled cranks are one piece though so a bit more tricky to extend. Quote
Tony Nitrous Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 7 hours ago, wobblegob said: didnt pip higham do a six cylinder gsx ? 4 Quote
Gixer1460 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 14 hours ago, clivegto said: Oil cooled cranks are one piece though so a bit more tricky to extend. LOL's - understatement of the year - so far! One common thread with all these conversions - press together cranks for good reason! Quote
davecara Posted January 9 Posted January 9 @Graham6cylinderis the man to speak to on his 6 cyl GS and the build.pitfalls etc. He had it built in under 12 months I believe and has some videos on youtube Quote
Graham6cylinder Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Just a few photos of my GS 750 6 cylinder build 20 Quote
Swiss Toni Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) @Graham6cylinder What a job! Good on you! We’re all very interested in this build, so we can’t have enough info/photo’s of it. Welcome to OSS. You’ll fit right in. Could you do a full build thread? Edited January 10 by Swiss Toni 1 Quote
samtait87 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) GS1600 seen at Dragstalgia 2015 I walked over thinking it was a CBX then noticed the Suzuki bites! I believe this was the Pip Higham build mentioned above. Edited January 10 by samtait87 Quote
Duckndive Posted January 10 Posted January 10 8 minutes ago, samtait87 said: GS1600 seen at Dragstalgia 2015 I walked over thinking it was a CBX then noticed the Suzuki bites! I believe this was the Pip Higham build mentioned above. Yeap that's Pips he converted it to Fi a couple years ago Quote
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