Johnnie Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Hello, I have a seized mixture screw in my '96 bandit carbs. Any ideas on how to loosen it without extreme violence? Quote
wraith Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Always nice it introduce yourself in general before jumping in asking questions Yon could try some heat. 1 Quote
Blubber Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 It wasn't just me..thinking that. Now I am feeling proud on keeping my loud mind for myself.... For a bit longer than normal 1 Quote
Tpot Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Cut off the bit that the screw goes into, then cut a new groove, should come out after a few taps and a soak Quote
Dezza Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Buy a small ultrasonic cleaner, strip the carbs and split the bank. Run the problem carb through several heat cycles in some carb cleaning fluid or something that is mildly acidic. If that doesn't work, then you're basically buggered without resorting to some very accurate drilling. Quote
Swiss Toni Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Before trying anything drastic, heat is your friend, as is a good fitting screwdriver. If that fails, and you haven't buggered the head up yet, give it regular doses of a good release oil (50/50 Acetone & Transmission fluid is worth trying) over a few days. Then give it another go. And welcome to OSS, by the way! Quote
wraith Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Blubber said: It wasn't just me..thinking that. Now I am feeling proud on keeping my loud mind for myself.... For a bit longer than normal If it's not you, it will be me 1 Quote
Johnnie Posted August 22, 2019 Author Posted August 22, 2019 Hi my name is Johnnie I enjoy long walks on the beach and volunteering at the local dog shelter. I'm a gender neutral vegan spiritualist. Its pleasure to meet your acquaintance. I've done the two day soak in 50/50 thinners and gear oil. I was originally stripping the carbs to ready them for an ultrasonic bath. Maybe a run through the tank first might loosen it! Thanks for the replies...... 1 Quote
Jaydee Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 I usually get out the Drimel and use an engraver tip. I make the screw slot deeper, going down 3 or 4mm. Takes ages to do. Then I heat up the screw using a jet lighter and keep quenching with Plus-gas. Only then do I try turning the screw. I do a lot of carb work. It's rare that I admit defeat but the odd mixture screw does fuse to the carb body with corrosion. I remember drilling a mixture screw once, the wall thickness couldn't have been any more than 0.2mm and still it wouldn't cave in away from the threads, proper fused in there. Quote
TLRS Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Had a stubborn one on a throttlebody.. kept it wet with penetration oil (fnarr) for I don't know how long.. days or something. Good fitting screwdriver and a good push/grip eventually got it out. Any chance of some double penetration action by using penetration oil on the other end of it too? Wish I had been that clever when getting mine out damnit.. Quote
Jaydee Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, TLRS said: Any chance of some double penetration action Be careful what you wish for! 3 Quote
Blubber Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Johnnie said: Hi my name is Johnnie I enjoy long walks on the beach and volunteering at the local dog shelter. I'm a gender neutral vegan spiritualist. Its pleasure to meet your acquaintance. Welcome I like to hug trees, pet orphan sharks and save old Suzuki's from neglection whilst riding on my unicorn wearing my see-through latex bodysuit... 4 Quote
Captain Chaos Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 Welcome to group therapy. When carbs are fucked like yours it's a good reason to go turbo and EFI. Hope this helps. Quote
Captain Chaos Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, Blubber said: riding on my unicorn wearing my see-through latex bodysuit. pics or it didn't happen 2 Quote
Blubber Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, Captain Chaos said: pics or it didn't happen Sorry No Pics.. Then I guess it didn't happen. 1 Quote
Swiss Toni Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 17 hours ago, Jaydee said: Be careful what you wish for! Aye! There's a few hairy arsed sailors aboard here! Whatever you do, if you drop the soap, just leave it where it is! 2 Quote
fatblokeonbandit Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) I resemble that remark Edited August 23, 2019 by fatblokeonbandit Quote
bluedog59 Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 I'd go with Dezza on this, a good soak in the fizzy tank can work wonders for freeing stuff before you get brutal with the implements of destruction. Quote
Johnnie Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 I've tried soaking it. I've tried heat. I used a dremel to make the slot in the head deeper. I even tried shouting at it for 20 minutes. Still no joy. Next move is to strip everything and dump it in the ultra sonic bath. I'm trying to avoid drilling it out. 1 Quote
Captain Chaos Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 did you ask it nicely? 25 minutes ago, Johnnie said: I even tried shouting at it for 20 minutes. Quote
Johnnie Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Captain Chaos said: did you ask it nicely? I'll offer it a gin and tonic after work. 1 Quote
stellafella Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Done it today, slot was fucked on the head, so screwdriver no good, fizzy tank, for 30 minutes, then carefully drilled down with a 2.5 drill and beat a t10 into the hole, managed to get the first one out, shagged the second carb, 50- 50 mate. Quote
Johnnie Posted August 27, 2019 Author Posted August 27, 2019 There is only one stuck in my set. I'll have another go this evening. Patience wouldn't be my strong suit. Quote
jonny1bump Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) I had to do mates carb 3 good and one stuck solid ? had to drill on mill what a pain very time consuming. Can't even use easy out as brass spreads and makes matters worse. Just have to drill drill and drill some more in increments. Bad enough doing your own let alone getting talked into doing someone else's. Won't be doing that again Edited August 31, 2019 by jonny1bump Quote
Johnnie Posted August 31, 2019 Author Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, jonny1bump said: I had to do mates carb 3 good one stuck solid had to drill on mill what a pain very time consuming. Can't even use easy out as brass spreads and makes matters worse. Just have to drill drill and drill some more in increments. Bad enough doing your own let alone getting talked into doing someone else's. Won't be doing that again I've ordered some left hand drill bits. I'll see how they go. On 8/26/2019 at 3:04 PM, Captain Chaos said: did you ask it nicely? I'll offer it a gin and tonic after work. Quote
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