akronos Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Can I have some information? What type are better for conversion? 630 to 530 or 630 to 520? Quote
wraith Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 530 on the GSX1157ET 520 on the gsx1100f powered Kat. Never tryed a 525 might give it a go next time I need chain and sprockets. Quote
akronos Posted July 6, 2020 Author Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) I need help on rear and front sprockets. If I install 525 or 530 conversion I need spacers? Edited July 6, 2020 by akronos Quote
wraith Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 I've never needed to use any, the only thing I found, that being a smaller items (for the same teeth) and if you have the back jacked up you may find the chain hitting the swing arm. Big debate as to whether you need to alter the teeth size I asked that question once and it went on for about 3 pages with some big arguments I found (on the Kat) going from a 530 chain with 47 rear and 15 front down to a 520 chain with same number of teeth the revs where lower in top gear, as if I'd put one smaller on the rear. Quote
Captain Chaos Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, wraith said: going from a 530 chain with 47 rear and 15 front down to a 520 chain with same number of teeth the revs where lower in top gear, 3 Quote
coombehouse Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, wraith said: I found (on the Kat) going from a 530 chain with 47 rear and 15 front down to a 520 chain with same number of teeth the revs where lower in top gear, as if I'd put one smaller on the rear. If the tooth ratio is 15/47, the gearing is the same regardless of chain size. The 530 525 & 520 chains are all the same pitch too, the chain is just thinner so uses thinner sprockets Edited July 6, 2020 by coombehouse More info 1 Quote
Askamaskinservice Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 4 hours ago, wraith said: I've never needed to use any, the only thing I found, that being a smaller items (for the same teeth) and if you have the back jacked up you may find the chain hitting the swing arm. Big debate as to whether you need to alter the teeth size I asked that question once and it went on for about 3 pages with some big arguments I found (on the Kat) going from a 530 chain with 47 rear and 15 front down to a 520 chain with same number of teeth the revs where lower in top gear, as if I'd put one smaller on the rear. +1 ^^^^^^ Quote
akronos Posted July 7, 2020 Author Posted July 7, 2020 What do you think about 530 chain with 17/45 or 18/45 ? Quote
370steve Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 22 hours ago, coombehouse said: If the tooth ratio is 15/47, the gearing is the same regardless of chain size. The 530 525 & 520 chains are all the same pitch too, the chain is just thinner so uses thinner sprockets Metric Dimensions Chain Pitch Width Roller Diameter 415 12.70mm 4.88mm 7.75mm 420 12.70mm 6.35mm 7.75mm 428 12.70mm 7.75mm 8.51mm 520 15.88mm 6.35mm 10.16mm 525 15.88mm 7.85mm 10.16mm 530 15.88mm 9.53mm 10.16mm 532 15.88mm 9.53mm 11.10mm 630 19.05mm 9.53mm 11.91mm 632 19.05mm 9.66mm 12.68mm Side plate thickness varies with grade and make of chain. As a rule, 1.5 to 2.6 mm. It is important for safety to join chain with the manufacturers correct Rivet Soft Link or Split Spring Link. Size, Manufacturer, and grade are often stamped on some of the side plates. 1 Quote
akronos Posted July 7, 2020 Author Posted July 7, 2020 I have a GSX 1100 EF , i found a lot of 530 sprocket but 525....where i can find sprocket of that dimension? Quote
370steve Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, akronos said: I have a GSX 1100 EF , i found a lot of 530 sprocket but 525....where i can find sprocket of that dimension? B&C Express https://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/ Edited July 7, 2020 by 370steve Quote
Dezza Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 I am guessing that the myth that changing chain size alters the gearing won't go away is because often a chain size change on bikes like OSS machines goes hand-in-hand with a wheel size change to run more modern tyres. The wider more modern tyres have low profiles so the circumference of the tyre can be smaller than the tyre previously on the machine, which lowers the gearing overall. Hence, even though the final drive gearing ratio is the same the bike will ride as if it's lower geared. This is true but the cause is the change in tyre size not a change in chain size. 1 Quote
Finn Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 FWIW, I was considering 630 to 530 conversion but noticed that for example RK still makes 630 X-ring chain so I think I'll stay with original size. 1 Quote
Finn Posted July 8, 2020 Posted July 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, CockneyRick said: Nah, 630 is so big ugly & pointless! So am I. "Old, not obsolete." Quote
Dezza Posted July 8, 2020 Posted July 8, 2020 630 chains are cool, although I haven't used one for 20 years+. I have a stock EFE 630 gearbox sprocket that has plenty of wear left if you are interested Quote
Dezza Posted July 8, 2020 Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, CockneyRick said: Nah, 630 is so big ugly & pointless! So are stock EFEs but we still love them 1 Quote
akronos Posted July 9, 2020 Author Posted July 9, 2020 I found this chain brand DID 530 with 130 links at a really low price. I was wondering... but what chain is it? https://www.Eblag.it/itm/535001301-CATENA-DI-TRASMISSIONE-DID-530-NERO-130-MAGLIE-CON-GIUNTO-A-CLIP-RJ/392504765993?hash=item5b631b6e29:g:VmcAAOSwdOxdtwtT Quote
fab Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 530 weigh a lot less than a 630, unsprung weight is better Quote
clairetoo Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 10 hours ago, fab said: 530 weigh a lot less than a 630, unsprung weight is better another of those wonderful chain myths.........while each individual link is a tiny bit lighter , you are gonna fit sprockets with more teeth , and will need more links of the smaller chain to cover the same length........so if someone can tell me where the weight saving comes from , go ahead punk - make my day (106 link 630 , is the same length as 127 links of 530.......and to keep some swingarm clearance 15/42 will normally be swapped for 17/48) Quote
Dezza Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 What about a 525 or a 520 chain? If 1.2 more links are required in order for a 5/8 chain of the same length as a 6/8 chain then each link would only have to be (1/127) X 1.2 lighter than each 6/8 link to break-even. If the difference is more than that, then the 5/8 chain will be lighter. That's without looking at sprockets or variation in mass among different chain types of the same size. I think I have a 630 chain, a 530 and a 525 in my shed and I have some scales so I will weigh things up when I can be arsed to do so Quote
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