SiBag Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Hi all twin loons, I'm contemplating adding a TL 1000 R to my toy set. Are there any things that I should look for, good points bad points, what fails and when. I know the stories of the widow maker rotary damper. Cheers for any input. Quote
Guest Manxzookie Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Rear suspensions shite /6 pots crap / front forks not got much travel /118bhp on a dyno so much for the 130 bhp / water pump seal can fail / my loom on the left hand side under the fairing panel went up in smoke most tlr1000 will if looked after will be sorted by now nice engine there's much better v twins out there for the same money Quote
SiBag Posted July 21, 2017 Author Posted July 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Manxzookie said: Rear suspensions shite /6 pots crap / front forks not got much travel /118bhp on a dyno so much for the 130 bhp / water pump seal can fail / my loom on the left hand side under the fairing panel went up in smoke most tlr1000 will if looked after will be sorted by now nice engine there's much better v twins out there for the same money So all good then... 1 Quote
crashtester Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 I loved mine. Had a full Yoshi system on it. Thought it was a great road bike, and I don't think the rotary damper was an issue on the road. I didn't have any problems with mine, up until the time that I rode it into the side of a car. Quote
banoffee Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Had 2 S and 1 R. Loved the S hated the R. Felt far too long. Quote
Guest Manxzookie Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Also the cdi unit packed in resulting in me having to push the fucker up ramps etc on the lady off Mann at tt 2001 and the ugly styling yeah I hated mine too only good for straight line blasts maybe that's why the yanks love them Quote
SiBag Posted July 25, 2017 Author Posted July 25, 2017 So a very mixed bag of reviews. Possibly wont be rushing out to find one unless an utter bargain falls in my lap. Bit of a shame as I fancy a twin (never had one), cant afford a Bim SB8 , and the fookati 916 are starting to hold silly money, and no I don't want a ponder fire side . Quote
Swiss Toni Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Why an R? Why not an S? They look better imho, and have 'chutzpah'! Quote
Guest Manxzookie Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 the tlr was a bag o shite and was never a sportsbike however the engine was a peach and won a wsb round in the wet with Anthony gobert but not in the Suzuki frame that was long time ditched in the skip but in a Bimota chassis I would rather have a s anyday and if I rememeber right the tlr wheelbase is the same as the the original r1 of the day Quote
SiBag Posted July 31, 2017 Author Posted July 31, 2017 I'm not a fan of the look of the "S" frame. looks like I will have sell kidney and get a Bim SB8 then.... Quote
banoffee Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 5 hours ago, SiBag said: I'm not a fan of the look of the "S" frame. looks like I will have sell kidney and get a Bim SB8 then.... Ah that's a shame. We like TL on here, not so much Bimota. Quote
Matt-Man Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Twins are for winners... I've had 3 R's and 2S's in about every reincarnation possible. Trick them up a bit and they'll handle just fine. Don't believe all hype about the Widow-maker crap. Motors are not overly powerful but enough to get you in trouble. Currently running an S and i love it. Got 2 R track bikes I'm building ahead of next season. It's all about the torque... One you get one, you'll fall in love. 2 Quote
banoffee Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Matt-Man said: Trick them up a bit and they'll handle just fine. Don't believe all hype about the Widow-maker crap. This. Ohlins fork springs and rear damper on my recent S, forks raised through yokes, modern tyres, chain slack correctly set, all bearings and linkages checked, greased and torqued - sorted. Braided lines, caliper rebuilds and modern pads sorted the braking. No handling issues at all yet still flighty in a fun way if you really pushed it which to be honest meant the front wheel was hovering! Engine wise it had clearances done, later model water pump cover, plumbing and temp sender location, the common water pump seal fix, injection setup properly, power commander, k&n and cans. I decided to remove and polish the black from the downpipes too, much better look as they are stainless underneath. Went very well with no stuttering/glitches. I spent time and money getting it perfect for me (near stock looking yet fully sorted) only to find it aggrevated an old injury while riding to the point of pain each ride so it got sold for an irresistible offer. The new owner is VERY happy with it. A flawed from new bike however plenty of easily found information on the internet on sorting them and rare now in good unmolested condition so likely to go up in value. 2 Quote
SiBag Posted August 9, 2017 Author Posted August 9, 2017 4 hours ago, banoffee said: A flawed from new bike however plenty of easily found information on the internet on sorting them and rare now in good unmolested condition so likely to go up in value. Ye that's cos you just molested it... I'm still tempted, but will have to put on hold till I sell my house. As I said I prefer the look of the R. So I may keep an eye out and then spend some cash on suspension.. Once again Thanks every one who has commented. Quote
banoffee Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 all the standard parts were kept. Can't say I like either version standard. Quote
Dezza Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 What about one of those Cagiva thingies that had the TL1000 engine? Or was that my imagination? Quote
Captain Chaos Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 On 18.08.2017 at 10:57 PM, Dezza said: What about one of those Cagiva thingies that had the TL1000 engine? Or was that my imagination? Raptor and V-Raptor. Only good thing about them is the engine. Not sporty at all, more like a bandit. Quality is a bit "Italian" too (I know because I worked at a Cagiva dealer when they were new). Quote
Gammaboy Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Captain Chaos said: Raptor and V-Raptor. Only good thing about them is the engine. Not sporty at all, more like a bandit. Quality is a bit "Italian" too (I know because I worked at a Cagiva dealer when they were new). There was also one that was like a V-Strom, with a tank each side of the frame... My dad had one, but I can't think what it's called. Quote
Captain Chaos Posted August 25, 2017 Posted August 25, 2017 Navigator I think. There was also a Gran Canyon but IIRC it had the aircooled Ducati engine. Quote
Heatz Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 i like em and have had both with tricked up shocks n stuff great bikes but temperamental and always seem to need something done with them i got rid when i realized all of my garage time was going into one or other of the TLs and my other projects where just gathering dust Quote
jimbob43 Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 I've a fighterd r. cracking fun.rides like a super moto.only issues with mine is tank slappers.got a steering damper.new bearings etc and it still does it.apart from that no issues.decent fuel return riding steady.drinks like an alky when pushed. Quote
dougw Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I`ve owned an R since 1999, bought new. Ran it in , crashed it, put it in track trim, raced it a bit, put it back into road trim, I like it. Ohlins rear fitted after the back tyre fell to bits after 10 laps of Mallory, doesn't overwork tyre now. Power commander , pipercross air filter with air box modded and cans, not quite as quick in a straight line as a race kitted SP1 I got to play with. Electrics are crap, I`m an Engineer and didn't believe the posts on how bad the electrics are until I had battery charging problems and measured the volt drops round the loom. Electrex World regulator and some rewiring with decent gauge cable and no problems since . Its not really a sports bike imho though, they never really where unless you put them on a drastic diet. 1 Quote
fatblokeonbandit Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 Had a few, raced an S for 2 years, didn't take much to make it handle excellently and it was fun fun fun..........And did the national hill climb championship on my modified R,, 2 Quote
Madb Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 I bet you have a big grin on your face as you walk towards your bike. That's Cool. Quote
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