Wider tires fitting older rims properly

[Captain Chaos]

11 hours ago, Neveragain55 said:

I've seen projects in here where people have spent in excess of $50.000 and at the end everybody is congratulating them.

I've seen projects in here that took a weekend to finish and their just as awesome.

this needs quoting because so true

[yantosh]

i'd rather see hard work done right  than a big budget 

[vizman]

[MeanBean49]

If its only looks and handling isnt important run what you want.

If handling is a concearn run the correct size tyres for the wheels.

Like Dunc said earlier a 180/60 is basically a 190 made for 5.5 wheels.

Imo a properly sized 180/120 looks way better than an ballooned out oversize tyre, its like looking at clown shoes

[Dezza]

About 30 years ago the bloke at Sharples Service Station, at the time one of the top bike tyre specialists in the UK, said to me: 'If I had a quid every time someone said to me 'What's the widest.........? I'd be a millionaire.' (He'd just come off the phone.) The answer is always the same: fit the correct size tyre for the rim. I do not understand how a 190 tyre 'looks better' than a 180 or even if any difference is even immediately visible, let alone enough to justify deliberately fitting a wrong size tyre. It just doesn't make sense. Anyway, I thought 'What tyres etc.?' was a rule violation.....

[Joseph]

Reminds of the ZX12R i used to commute with, its shod with a 200 from the factory but most downsize them with 190s in order to properly use the capacities of the bike

[Neveragain55]

9 hours ago, Joseph said:

Judging by the description of your project I was expecting a few more outstanding parts/setups. 

Give her time friend, she's nowhere near done yet, much more to come........

[Neveragain55]

5 hours ago, yantosh said:

i'd rather see hard work done right  than a big budget 

And who says that this project wasn't done right with hard work......?

I think some of you in here took my comments about the budget personal or the wrong way, my apologies.

Make no mistake, tons of hours of hard work have absolutely gone into this project and by no means am I implying that it will be the greatest bike on the planet when she's done, but I'm very proud of the "hard work" that's been put into her thus far, and as far as the budget, again.....the money spent on this thing happened over a long period of time, in installments.

I certainly don't have the cash reserve to dump tens of thousands on anything in one felt-swoop.

When this project is over I plan on creating a build thread, and folks will either like it, love it, or hate it, and it's all good.

Edited June 28, 2021 by Neveragain55

[vizman]

1 minute ago, Neveragain55 said:

And who says that this project wasn't done right with hard work......?

No one, absolutely no one.

[Neveragain55]

4 hours ago, MeanBean49 said:

Imo a properly sized 180/120 looks way better than an ballooned out oversize tyre, its like looking at clown shoes

I agree......

[wraith]

2 hours ago, Dezza said:

. Anyway, I thought 'What tyres etc.?' was a rule violation.....

Yes so did I.

Last time I put a post up (years ago) about tyres etc it was deleted with in seconds, catch up mods.

Ps had a bike with a 3.5" rim front but had a 130/70 on it and it would not go round corners.

[vizman]

No body likes a grass….

 

[yantosh]

2 hours ago, Neveragain55 said:

And who says that this project wasn't done right with hard work......?

I think some of you in here took my comments about the budget personal or the wrong way, my apologies.

Make no mistake, tons of hours of hard work have absolutely gone into this project and by no means am I implying that it will be the greatest bike on the planet when she's done, but I'm very proud of the "hard work" that's been put into her thus far, and as far as the budget, again.....the money spent on this thing happened over a long period of time, in installments.

I certainly don't have the cash reserve to dump tens of thousands on anything in one felt-swoop.

When this project is over I plan on creating a build thread, and folks will either like it, love it, or hate it, and it's all good.

dry yer eyes  , I was in no way criticised anything you've done ,  you appear to be in the same boat as most of us here, we do what we can with what we have when we can 

if anything I was stating I prefer you are going about it over simply throwing cash about 

 

and why wait till its done to make a build thread, use it as a diary of how the bike progresses ?

[Dezza]

I want my tyres to look all nice and shiny: what is the best grade of oil to polish them with?

[wraith]

5 minutes ago, Dezza said:

I want my tyres to look all nice and shiny: what is the best grade of oil to polish them with?

WD40 works well 

[wraith]

1 hour ago, vizman said:

No body likes a grass….

 

One rule for one same rule for all,

or don't wine about Hayabusa and cafe racers 

[Neveragain55]

43 minutes ago, yantosh said:

and why wait till its done to make a build thread, use it as a diary of how the bike progresses ?

Honestly I thought about it but I hate leaving people hanging, and I don't expect for the bike to be done until early spring of 2022.

I hate following a thread and then it just stops for months, it's like watching a good movie that suddenly stops with no ending.

To your point I've tried to chronologically number all the pictures I've taken from the very beginning (including receiving parts) so that I can list them as things happened.

I've also made a running list of all the parts I've sourced so that I can share all of that when it's done.

The only few things left at this point are:

welding up the frame to strengthen it, fabricating a rear brake caliper torque arm, finishing the seat pan and having it padded & covered, fabricating up a header system (to fit the 80 GS750 frame) adding the oil cooler, putting in the wiring harness, putting the carbs on, running all the plumbing & cabling, wiring up the speedo, lights, and signals, powder coating about a billion things including the frame, wheels, rear swingarm, and front forks, figuring out which tires to use (which in the end will probably be the 180/120 set up), painting the tank, side panels, and rear section, bolting on the rearsets, etc., etc., etc.

I've actually shared quite a few pics in most of the threads I started, do a search of my threads and you'll see quite a bit.

And by the way, no tears and I take no offense to anything, it's all good here friend, I'm from Jersey.......we have titanium for skin.....

[vizman]

49 minutes ago, wraith said:

One rule for one same rule for all,

or don't wine about Hayabusa and cafe racers 

[TonyGee]

1 hour ago, Dezza said:

I want my tyres to look all nice and shiny: what is the best grade of oil to polish them with?

I use baby oil,  they come up really shiny and they are so supple too   

[Sandman]

på med?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do not understand the reason why some persons put on these way to wide tires. Is it for show of, or to show others that they have no idea what they are doing?

[Neveragain55]

13 hours ago, Sandman said:

på med?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do not understand the reason why some persons put on these way to wide tires. Is it for show of, or to show others that they have no idea what they are doing?

"I do not understand the reason why some persons put on these way to wide tires. Is it for show of, or to show others that they have no idea what they are doing?"

 

Sandman, the aftermarket world of wheels, tires, and swingarms that accommodate wider than stock wheels on motorcycles is a billion dollar industry. The aftermarket world of high performance modifications for cars is even more, leading anybody to the conclusion that demand for these items has been at a high for decades now. To answer your question, it's a mix of many reasons. Some people like the "wide wheel/tire combination look" on their car or motorcycle, some people love the "staggered" look on their cars. Yes, some people feel as though it's a form of bragging rights or outdoing their buddies, while for others its purely about aesthetics and not fit, form or function. Bottom line is this, we all like similar & dissimilar things at the same time, and we should all understand & respect that. I'm a member of many car forums and at least 3 motorcycle forums and I've seen it all. I respect all of it, and I never questioned why somebody painted something purple instead of black or used "X" instead of "Z". I understand that none of us are ever going to agree on everything but the least we can do is be supportive. There's some super talented people in this forum with tons more knowledge than me and I respect what they've built. Think about how boring the world would be if we were all purists and never wanted to stray outside of how things came stock. It would make for a pretty boring world with no creativity, which sometimes leads manufacturers to supply what buyers are demanding.

Remember that chopper that H.O.N.D.A made during the chopper craze.......

   

Edited June 29, 2021 by Neveragain55

[vizman]

If I had a pound for…..

[clivegto]

My advice would be stop making lists & get on with the build. Advantage of a build thread is people on hear may perhaps be able to help or give sound advice. But probably take the piss a lot as well 

[Neveragain55]

2 hours ago, clivegto said:

My advice would be stop making lists & get on with the build. 

The build was started quite some time ago, is ongoing as I type these words, and will not stop until finished.

I have that rare ability to work, build, play, live, and make lists all at the same time.

Once finished a build thread will follow suite.

Amazing how that crystal ball of yours saw me not working on my project while I was making a list (sarcasm).

Have a great day friend.........

[Joseph]

Definitely going to be the most awesome bike project ever built on here, i can't wait to see it finished