Maddog Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 My old GS is still running a 630 chain, which looks like something off an old steam lorry. Its way too big for the power output and as it's o-ring it's even wider than Suzuki intended and rubs on stuff it shouldn't. If I swap down to say 530 - how do I work out the proper length? - i'd sooner buy an endless chain of correct size. Would you keep the same number of teeth on each sprocket to keep ratio same or would that make diameter of front sprock too small? Cheers Andy Quote
kiwi Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) http://www.suzuki-katana.com/katana_gearing.html Edited February 21, 2016 by kiwi better Quote
cregnybaa Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Maddog said: My old GS is still running a 630 chain, which looks like something off an old steam lorry. Its way too big for the power output and as it's o-ring it's even wider than Suzuki intended and rubs on stuff it shouldn't. If I swap down to say 530 - how do I work out the proper length? - i'd sooner buy an endless chain of correct size. Would you keep the same number of teeth on each sprocket to keep ratio same or would that make diameter of front sprock too small? Cheers Andy If you had say a 16t 630 front sprocket then you just replace it with a 16t 530 same goes for the rear if it was 44 then replace it with 44 as with the chain if it was 110 links then replace it with 110. Quote
Captain Chaos Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 a 530 chain is not narrower than a 630 chain. A 525 is narrower. Quote
Maddog Posted February 22, 2016 Author Posted February 22, 2016 Captain Chaos is quite right, what am I thinking the '30' bit refers to the chain width and its the same on the 530 and 630. What's thrown me is that it looks huge compared to the chain on the blandit, which turns out is a 525. The 630 I've got is a DID heavy duty o-ring job and its over an inch wide - I guess o-ring chains weren't fitted in '79 so the original chain may have been narrower. A new 530 setup would be quite a bit cheaper than a 630 but by the looks of it it may outlast me anyway! Quote
vizman Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 does the 30 bit refer to the sprocket thickness/ inside plate measurement?.....I thunk? 1 Quote
gsx Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Done this conversion on me katana and running 18 front 48 rear . Bloke I bought original esd off changed to 530 chain and sprockets but used standard 630 teeth , went like fuck in top but revved out . Get a conversion 530 kit and it comes with a 6mm spacer that fits behind the front sprocket , job done Quote
Jaydee Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, vizman said: does the 30 bit refer to the sprocket thickness/ inside plate measurement?.....I thunk? Its to do with imperial measurements, eighths of an inch. The first 5 is the pitch (5/8's of an inch) the second number (3) is the sprocket thickness/inside roller width (3/8's of an inch) And the last number can be either a 0 (nothing, i.e 530 width 3/8's+zero=3/8's) or it can be a 5 with is half of 1/8th of an inch) (5)30 width is 3/8's (5)25 width is 2/8 + 1/16 = 5/16's. Edited February 22, 2016 by Jaydee 4 Quote
vizman Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 sorry I meant it as a joke..........I'm no funny Quote
vizman Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 two different brands, both 530, but one is wider than the other, the inside measurements being the same....kinda' thing Quote
Jaydee Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 17 minutes ago, vizman said: sorry I meant it as a joke..........I'm no funny Going to have to start profiling you Viz. Quote
vizman Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 even my last post made no sense....I'd start again but I can't be arsed.... Quote
maxwin Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 If your not doing high touring mileage then go for 525 or even 520 and you'll get more power delivered to the wheel Quote
Anders74 Posted November 4 Posted November 4 "Get a conversion 530 kit and it comes with a 6mm spacer that fits behind the front sprocket , job done " I have a 4.5 wheel from gsxr 1988. What kind of front sprocket and how much mm space i need? Can you use normal spacers? The offset sprocket is expansive! Thanks.... Quote
krazy kat Posted November 6 Posted November 6 stock conversion 6mm spacer goes in the front of sprocket to take up space of rubber dampening stuff Quote
Builtwithpurehate Posted November 18 Posted November 18 What would you consider 525/530 rated for hp wise? Would it do well with an 1100 ? Quote
Gixer1460 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 4 hours ago, Builtwithpurehate said: What would you consider 525/530 rated for hp wise? Would it do well with an 1100 ? Plenty good enough! More than a few turbo'd Buss's over 500+hp using std 530 chain and loads done using 525 - good enough? Quote
Builtwithpurehate Posted November 18 Posted November 18 5 hours ago, Gixer1460 said: Plenty good enough! More than a few turbo'd Buss's over 500+hp using std 530 chain and loads done using 525 - good enough? More than I would produce I'd imagine! Quote
TonyGee Posted November 18 Posted November 18 6 hours ago, Gixer1460 said: Plenty good enough! More than a few turbo'd Buss's over 500+hp using std 530 chain and loads done using 525 - good enough? DID say a std 530 chain is ok for an 1100cc engine kicking out around a 100 hp, they recommend HD chains for more powerful bikes, so are you sure a 500hp engine won't snap a std 530 ? just going by what DID say. 530VX3 – DIDChain Quote
Gixer1460 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 I said a std Hayabusa chain - didn't specify DID! If it's the std Busa chain, it's not a 'std DID as Busa's have made 180+hp NA stock! Any superbike chain these days will easily live with an 'old 1100' even GSX variants! Quote
TonyGee Posted November 18 Posted November 18 21 minutes ago, Gixer1460 said: I said a std Hayabusa chain - didn't specify DID! If it's the std Busa chain, it's not a 'std DID as Busa's have made 180+hp NA stock! Any superbike chain these days will easily live with an 'old 1100' even GSX variants! sorry just got a bit confused as to what you said to Builtwithpurhate !!! i couldn't get the connection from his 1100 and a 500hp busa Quote
inazumarob Posted December 9 Posted December 9 On 11/4/2024 at 10:39 AM, Anders74 said: "Get a conversion 530 kit and it comes with a 6mm spacer that fits behind the front sprocket , job done " I have a 4.5 wheel from gsxr 1988. What kind of front sprocket and how much mm space i need? Can you use normal spacers? The offset sprocket is expansive! Thanks.... I have done a 530 conversion on a EFE build. I used a std Katana 1100 front sprocket with a spacer from a Bandit. Rear was a GSXF sprocket. I used 17/45 with a 120 link chain. Use a GS500 rear sprocket carrier. I am using a 160/60 rear tyre. The chains are imperial measurements. The 5 in 530 is 5/8" between pins, and the 6 in 630 is 6/8" (3/4). So roughly 16mm and 19mm. This is why link numbers differ. Quote
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