kitkatman Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Bought an EFE A reg (1983) a few years ago, when I took apart I noticed a D stamped on the end of the cams. I have checked them against other cams from ETs & kat,s, looked in books etc but know mention of a D. Any ideas please. Quote Link to comment
Nickel Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 As far as I know these must be cams from GSX1100EF non European. In Europe all GSX1100EF engines had about 100hp that day, but the non European models had about 124hp. These engines had cams with a "D" mark. Quote Link to comment
Danish Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 ' As Nickel mentions, the unrestricted (124bhp) EFE-cams have a “D” stamped on the side face (at the ends if you will). Whereas the restricted version (100 bhp) is marked with a “G” at the ends. Maybe that would be a “G” for German ?? Anyhow, “G” for German is my way of remembering this . ' 1 Quote Link to comment
Danish Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 ' .... actually found this foto in my archive, that DnD originally posted sometime ago (might be years for what I know - time flies by ?) As you can see the “G”-stamped cams are meant for Austria, Sweden, Switzerland and W.Germany …. the “W” in front of Germany reminds of how old these EFE-beast really are ' 2 Quote Link to comment
Gixer1460 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 11:36 AM, Nickel said: In Europe all GSX1100EF engines had about 100hp that day, but the non European models had about 124hp. These engines had cams with a "D" mark. Bit of a 'catch all' statement. UK never got restricted cams and we are Europeans LOL! Quote Link to comment
Nickel Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, Gixer1460 said: Bit of a 'catch all' statement. UK never got restricted cams and we are Europeans LOL! Quote Link to comment
HUM Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Hi B ut Ur max speed on the roads is 112 KM motorway ? 96 KM normal roads ? it is max second gear from 5 it does not matter 100 HP or 124 HP LOL Same like discussions in US " wooow I have 180 HP in my bike...." " U ever driven full speed ? " "No " Jokes must be HUM Quote Link to comment
Gixer1460 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, HUM said: Hi B ut Ur max speed on the roads is 112 KM motorway ? 96 KM normal roads ? it is max second gear from 5 it does not matter 100 HP or 124 HP LOL Same like discussions in US " wooow I have 180 HP in my bike...." " U ever driven full speed ? " "No " Jokes must be HUM Talking like that won't make friends round here abouts! We choose to do it because we can, whether its practical or sensible is immaterial ! 3 Quote Link to comment
kitkatman Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 My feelings exactly. Quote Link to comment
TrunKz Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I‘m looking for the D Cams… does anyone have any to give away? Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I Have some Bump Sticks with D,s on 1 Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 I,m Nr Stratford upon Avon ....if anyone wants to look in the drawer and buy 1 Quote Link to comment
Bow Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 @Duckndive you don’t happen to have a pair of G4 grind Efe cams in your hoard you’d be willing to part with by any chance ? Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Bow said: @Duckndive you don’t happen to have a pair of G4 grind Efe cams in your hoard you’d be willing to part with by any chance ? check out this lot there is some nice phil joy cams 1 Quote Link to comment
jonny1bump Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 On 10/23/2019 at 5:55 PM, HUM said: Hi B ut Ur max speed on the roads is 112 KM motorway ? 96 KM normal roads ? it is max second gear from 5 it does not matter 100 HP or 124 HP LOL Same like discussions in US " wooow I have 180 HP in my bike...." " U ever driven full speed ? " "No " Jokes must be HUM Thats why we have race tracks and quite few of us on here certainly ridden and driven full speed. Quote Link to comment
Dezza Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) German bikes in the 80s were restricted when the power of larger capacity machines started to creep over 100ps out of the box. I think french bikes were also restricted as well as swiss spec bikes, which, as we all know, were all restricted to 10bhp . And G for Germany is illogical as only the UK in Europe has English as an official language (apart from ROI, Channel Islands, IOM, Gibraltar etc.). It would be more likely that if a letter indicated a country code Germany would be D: Deutschland. My guess is the D and G indicates something else to country code. Edited September 13, 2022 by Dezza 1 Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dezza said: German bikes in the 80s were restricted when the power of larger capacity machines started to creep over 100ps out of the box. I think french bikes were also restricted as well as swiss spec bikes, which, as we all know, were all restricted to 10bhp . And G for Germany is illogical as only the UK in Europe has English as an official language (apart from ROI, Channel Islands, IOM, Gibraltar etc.). It would be more likely that if a letter indicated a country code Germany would be D: Deutschland. My guess is the D and G indicates something else to country code. The cams referred to in the factory manual as A are marked with a "D" full power ....... the others have no mark less lift and duration often call the 100hp cams 1 Quote Link to comment
Dezza Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 13 hours ago, Duckndive said: The cams referred to in the factory manual as A are marked with a "D" full power ....... the others have no mark less lift and duration often call the 100hp cams It's all in black-and-white then. And even though I have the same book I still failed to see this, doh Quote Link to comment
Joseph Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) French bikes were restricted to 106 HP from 1985 onwards. After many years of pressure from biker associations, pointing out that EU equity was not respected on this matter, the restriction has been lifted since 2016. That said, the gov still kept their stance on it somewhat because although you can derestrict bikes made before 2016, you can only do it on bikes equipped... with ABS. Edited September 14, 2022 by Joseph Quote Link to comment
Gixer1460 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 15 hours ago, Dezza said: which, as we all know, were all restricted to 10bhp . . . . . . that's a hell of a restriction ! And G for Germany is illogical as only the UK in Europe has English . . . . Who mentioned 'G' marked cams? If it was the reference 'G4' above - that is a grind profile from (I think) Web or Cammotion in the USA. 1 Quote Link to comment
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