6 pots on a bandit.

[Reelinfeele]

Put them on the shelf and admire them. they suck. have had maNY sets. never got them to work. junk. the 4 pots are better. the 6pots don't even work with a 19mm brembo. 

[jacktar01]

Good to know about the Triumph calipers will keep an eye out for a set

[MeanBean49]

On Tuesday, November 08, 2016 at 11:21 AM, jacktar01 said:

Good to know about the Triumph calipers will keep an eye out for a set

Triumph calipers are exactly the same caliper as nissin 4 pots just badged triumph. Tend to cost more than a set of nissins for some reason though.

[wraith]

On 07/11/2016 at 7:13 AM, R1guy said:

Harrison billet 6?

Now they are the dog's bollocks, 

[fatblokeonbandit]

You want good brakes on a bandit, try these

 

[dupersunc]

4 hours ago, MeanBean49 said:

Triumph calipers are exactly the same caliper as nissin 4 pots just badged triumph. Tend to cost more than a set of nissins for some reason though.

I could be wrong on this, but was told the pistons are bigger on the Triumph versions.  Price is luck off the draw on ebray, my buddy paid peanuts for the set he bought.

[MeanBean49]

30 minutes ago, dupersunc said:

I could be wrong on this, but was told the pistons are bigger on the Triumph versions.  Price is luck off the draw on ebray, my buddy paid peanuts for the set he bought.

Nope. Exactly the same. 

Would have loads of lever travel to get em to work if pistons were bigger

[Ragerover]

2 hours ago, wraith said:

Now they are the dog's bollocks, 

Strange I tried these years ago thought they were crap

could have been the pads though

[Ragerover]

2 hours ago, fatblokeonbandit said:

You want good brakes on a bandit, try these

 

Nice forks 

[dupersunc]

1 hour ago, MeanBean49 said:

Nope. Exactly the same.

Would have loads of lever travel to get em to work if pistons were bigger

Depends on the MC, but yeah like for like you would. I'll ask my mate measure them up.

[MeanBean49]

13 hours ago, dupersunc said:

Depends on the MC, but yeah like for like you would. I'll ask my mate measure them up.

Triumph use the same bore/ratio master cylinder.

[stueypie]

Just thought I'd hijack this old thread for others who have searched for something similar.

Tokico 6 pots are rubbish. At their best & when looked after they are a good caliper but require frequent stripping to maintain the same braking performance as any decent 4 pot.

If you are looking for replacements and really want to stick with something that looks meatier than "just 4 pots", ISR, PFM, Harrison, Beringer all have 6 pot axial calipers for MEGABUCKS as they're a bit...special, but they're lovely. As a cheaper option, fit this axial-to-radial machined bracket from HEL: https://www.helperformance.com/axial-to-radial-caliper-conversion-brackets and then fit a common used radial caliper for less money because radial calipers are now the braking "standard" and because of the law of supply-and-demand they are now really affordable. And then you really have awesome stoppers. You will need to change your MC to suit.

Edited February 1, 2021 by stueypie

[domagoj]

Except for the logo, the rest is the same..

 

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Edited February 27, 2021 by domagoj

[MeanBean49]

On 2/1/2021 at 1:24 AM, stueypie said:

Just thought I'd hijack this old thread for others who have searched for something similar.

Tokico 6 pots are rubbish. At their best & when looked after they are a good caliper but require frequent stripping to maintain the same braking performance as any decent 4 pot.

If you are looking for replacements and really want to stick with something that looks meatier than "just 4 pots", ISR, PFM, Harrison, Beringer all have 6 pot axial calipers for MEGABUCKS as they're a bit...special, but they're lovely. As a cheaper option, fit this axial-to-radial machined bracket from HEL: https://www.helperformance.com/axial-to-radial-caliper-conversion-brackets and then fit a common used radial caliper for less money because radial calipers are now the braking "standard" and because of the law of supply-and-demand they are now really affordable. And then you really have awesome stoppers. You will need to change your MC to suit.

You do realise because your mounting a radial caliper using conventional forks it completely negates the whole thing that makes radials better.

You dont need to upgrade your master cylinder either, its still just a piston in a hole pushing pistons out of holes.

A radial master will however give better feel over axial.

And you tend to find newer calipers have a better selection of pads available.

A radial master and some nissin 4 pots with good race pads and braided hoses will be every bit as good as radials mounted with those adaptors but at a fraction of the cost

[bluedog59]

Yep, mount a fancy caliper on a nice, long lever and reintroduce all that lovely flex the fancy caliper was designed to eliminate...........and maybe a little more for good measure.

[TonyGee]

going back to the busa 6 pots, i had no end of problems trying to bleed them up on customers bikes, never got them the same as a brand new bike, (love to know how the factory did them)  but someone told me the seals out of  a zxr of some sort helped. the suzuki seal's have a tapered edge on them which is meant to help the pistons retract (that came from a suzuki tech)  so i tried a set of seals from the zxr which are square like normal seals and they made a big difference.  i don't know for sure if this is the problem with the 6 pots but i know other guys who have done the same thing with good results.  but i'm sticking with my 4 pots. 

[Captain Chaos]

36 minutes ago, TonyGee said:

love to know how the factory did them

They probably assemble the complete brake system while submerged in a bath of brake fluid 

[Captain Chaos]

Now you mention it, I've had far fewer problems with ZX-R tokico's than with Suzuki 6-pots. 

[Hoomietune]

On 11/7/2016 at 3:47 PM, MeanBean49 said:

They do work ok when looked after, but no better than the 4 pots which take far less maintenance to keep that way, and they bleed up way easier.

Best upgrade is the tokico 4 pots off early s-rad 600 and Tl1000s they perform a bit better than 4 pot nissins.

Zx7rr nissin 6 pots are the real ones to have but are rocking horse poo.

Mv f4 calipers are the same nissin 6 pots but they are a wierd bolt spacing and dont fit.

I find harrision billets are ok but more a bling caliper than performance

Pfm 6 pots are awesome with the matching discs

Any caliper fully working with good discs, braided lines and quality pads should be more than up to the job of stopping well.

A radial master cylinder is avout the best mod you can make to a brake system, feel and control is so much better.

Thats what i have found anyway :-)

Radial Brembo disc -caliper -MC are the best brakes I’ve ever used absolutely awesome 

 

 

[MeanBean49]

19 minutes ago, Hoomietune said:

Radial Brembo disc -caliper -MC are the best brakes I’ve ever used absolutely awesome 

 

 

All placebo if they have been used on conventional forks.

Normal mounted brembos with a normal brembo master with the same discs and pads would perform just the same

[TonyGee]

if you can lift the rear wheel with the front brake using just two fingers then you brake is good enough  

Edited March 3, 2021 by TonyGee

[bluedog59]

People overlook how important "feel" is.  The best set up in the book is little use if it feels like you're squeezing a brick.

[wraith]

18 hours ago, bluedog59 said:

People overlook how important "feel" is.  The best set up in the book is little use if it feels like you're squeezing a brick.

Or you grab a handful of brake and lock the front up.

We all need a good feel