Solestriper Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 Does anybody know the best aftermarket mastercyclinder for 1981gsx750 one with bigger bore for easy bleeding you tube video told me it is a must. I was looking at Nissan. 1 Quote
Solestriper Posted July 13, 2023 Author Posted July 13, 2023 Just now, Solestriper said: Does anybody know the best aftermarket mastercyclinder for 1981gsx750 one with bigger bore for easy bleeding you tube video told me it is a must. I was looking at Nissan. Last part I need to finish front breaks for good stop power. Quote
TonyGee Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, Solestriper said: I was looking at Nissan. a car one won't fit !!!!! how does a bigger bore make it easier to bleed ? just use one from a modern-ish bike like a bandit for example. Quote
Duckndive Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, TonyGee said: a car one won't fit !!!!! I think its a typo and he means "Nissin" https://nissinbrakeperformance.com/ Quote
TonyGee Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Duckndive said: I think its a typo and he means "Nissin" https://nissinbrakeperformance.com/ Yeah i know Quote
Gixer1460 Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 And a bigger bore master won't neccessarily give you 'better' brakes - it will reduce lever travel but produce lower system pressure at the caliper pistons! Unless you know what you are doing - stick with the 'usual' 14mm bore size . . . . . . . and the YT advice is bollux, bore size makes no difference to bleeding! 1 Quote
Mike711 Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 I have an Accossato 16mm radial cylinder with std 1980 single piston calipers & it works well. I also have a 16mm clutch cylinder connected to the rear opposed piston caliper which also works very well, the std one barely has any effect. 1 Quote
Solestriper Posted July 30, 2023 Author Posted July 30, 2023 Nissin is right the original reconditioned one was in my car when it got stolen I have a 250 bandit one but that needs a reco to I think the guy on you tube with gs1000 means if you buy new aftermarket get one with standard bore size or bigger if bore size to small it is a problem bleeding. Quote
coombehouse Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Solestriper said: Nissin is right the original reconditioned one was in my car when it got stolen I have a 250 bandit one but that needs a reco to I think the guy on you tube with gs1000 means if you buy new aftermarket get one with standard bore size or bigger if bore size to small it is a problem bleeding. Many YouTubers have no idea what they are on about. 1 Quote
Gixer1460 Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Solestriper said: I think the guy on you tube with gs1000 means if you buy new aftermarket get one with standard bore size or bigger if bore size to small it is a problem bleeding. Do you believe everything you see on YT? Why would you need to enlarge a Master Cylinder size to bleed it up - you'd just end up with unsatisfactory brakes! Because an idiot on YT can't bleed small cylinders doesn't mean the cylinder is wrong, just that the idiot can't do the job properly! 1 Quote
wraith Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 I've only had 3 brake systems that I found a real pain to bleed, one was a set of zzr front calipers, one a set of 6 pot gsxr calipers and the other is the Billet 6 on the miss bike and non of them have to do with the M/C it's just the calipers. I've never had a problem with any of the older GS/gsx/gsxr systems. If you're having a problem bleeding them given the age try fitting a new seal kit in the standard M/C 1 Quote
Duckndive Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 Vehicle Manufacturers Cheat on assembly lines Filling and bleeding the entire system via the master cylinder in less than a minute in most cases using a very trick Vacuum / Nitrogen / Brake Fluid ,PLC Controlled System I've seen one in operation no mess very impressive Obviously us mere mortals don't have that luxury Quote
Dezza Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 2 hours ago, wraith said: I've only had 3 brake systems that I found a real pain to bleed, one was a set of zzr front calipers, one a set of 6 pot gsxr calipers and the other is the Billet 6 on the miss bike and non of them have to do with the M/C it's just the calipers. I've never had a problem with any of the older GS/gsx/gsxr systems. If you're having a problem bleeding them given the age try fitting a new seal kit in the standard M/C I once buggered about for 2 days trying to bleed the front brakes of a ZZR 1100 and got no-where. After clearing the dirt partially blocking the bleed nipples it was a 10 minute job, doh 1 Quote
Safra Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 11:45 PM, Solestriper said: Does anybody know the best aftermarket mastercyclinder for 1981gsx750 one with bigger bore for easy bleeding you tube video told me it is a must. I was looking at Nissan. 5/8th's or 16mm is best size according to multiple forums and sources I've seen this and a combination of new friction material pads with braided hoses Quote
gorbys Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 Best thing I ever did in this regard was to buy a big syringe and reverse bleed the system, filling it from the bleed niple to the mc. Highly recommended if you ever need to fill am empty system 1 Quote
Solestriper Posted July 31, 2023 Author Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Safra said: 5/8th's or 16mm is best size according to multiple forums and sources I've seen this and a combination of new friction material pads with braided hoses Yip I got the new pads new braided lines new pistons I will go for aftermarket mastercyclinder as I am over reconditioning parts on this bike and wont to start riding it. Edited July 31, 2023 by Solestriper Spelling 1 Quote
Solestriper Posted July 31, 2023 Author Posted July 31, 2023 6 hours ago, gorbys said: Best thing I ever did in this regard was to buy a big syringe and reverse bleed the system, filling it from the bleed niple to the mc. Highly recommended if you ever need to fill am empty system Thanks I will try that. Quote
Solestriper Posted July 31, 2023 Author Posted July 31, 2023 6 hours ago, gorbys said: Best thing I ever did in this regard was to buy a big syringe and reverse bleed the system, filling it from the bleed niple to the mc. Highly recommended if you ever need to fill am empty system Thanks I will try that. Quote
Solestriper Posted July 31, 2023 Author Posted July 31, 2023 14 hours ago, Gixer1460 said: Do you believe everything you see on YT? Why would you need to enlarge a Master Cylinder size to bleed it up - you'd just end up with unsatisfactory brakes! Because an idiot on YT can't bleed small cylinders doesn't mean the cylinder is wrong, just that the idiot can't do the job properly! The yt guy must have purchased smaller than standard aftermarket mastercyclinder. My original reconditioned one was in my car when stolen. My hole system is new with braided lines just need right mastercyclinder. Quote
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