Swiss Toni Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 What's a good fix for the usual problems with seized/broken studs? I seem to remember someone advised fitting stainless studs and brass nuts! Anyone tried it? Did it solve the problem? Quote
strima Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 I used stainless studs and nuts on mine with no issues. Quote
Sheep Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 I used brass nuts on a turbo manifold due to the heat/cooling cycle...also,like Strima,i have used stainless.Just remember to use plenty of copper slip to prevent galling. Quote
Gixer1460 Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 The advantage using brass or copper nuts with stainless or steel studs is they don't gall and can't be over-tightened but I have used normal stainless with coppaslip to avoid seizure equally successfully. Quote
Swiss Toni Posted October 7, 2016 Author Posted October 7, 2016 And no problems with the Copperslip melting off ? Quote
Sheep Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 No....It will cook off slightly but still retain enough on the threads to ease removal of the nut.I use it all the time.Messy but helps especially if you are removing components regularly. My workmate hardly uses the stuff.....then wonders why he is grinding nuts off later...doofus. Quote
Ben Slabby Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 As above, stainless studs with brass nuts. Absolutely no problems. If you're gonna buy em on "that" site, search for M8 grub screws, they're tons cheaper. Quote
Ben Slabby Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Worst case scenario with the brass nuts is a nut splitter or hacksaw part way through, they're soft enough to cut off if you have to. Quote
Oilyspanner Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 I've been using Ti allen bolts instead of studs/nuts for a few years, never a problem, just don't over-tighten - I just hate studs breaking off, they tend to be forgotten about until one gets stuck, this way I can clean the threads each time the exhaust comes off. If the threads ever weaken I'll have inserts fitted. Quote
markfoggy Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 Here's a bit of unusual knowledge from the Endurance world. Now I'd always use Drilled Ti bolts and then lockwire them, No need to crank them in very hard and risk damaging the threads. The clever bit is to fit accurate spacers between the Flange and the head. This will make sure that you can't distort the flange as you fit it, slip ins' with springs or not. The real benefit comes if you drop the bike. Any decent landing on the end can has a habit of trying to distort the flanges at the head. which are now much more stable. The interesting thing here is that it enhances engine reliability. Small exhaust leaks at the cylinder head are not good news. If you have one or more exhaust leaks here you get weird temperatures at the exhaust valves and over time this can lead to Valve trouble. Probably not significant on a road engine, but critical if you are pushing the tune a bit. and all for the price of a small stack of washers or a bit of ally thick wall tube. It's all in the detail. 1 Quote
Quist Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 On 7 oktober 2016 at 7:57 PM, Swiss Toni said: And no problems with the Copperslip melting off ? I never use copperslip paste anymore, better use the ceramic grease. Works excellent when you use stainless bolts in alu and is heat resistant up to 1000+ degrees. 1 Quote
Gixerjonah Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 Totally agree with Quist. when using stainless bolts ceramic grease is far better than copperslip. Have been using it for a while now with not a prob. Quote
Oilyspanner Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 Another vote for ceramic grease, first used it when installing an exhaust on a GSXR1000K6 at work - must be 10 years ago then, the bike was new - it's good stuff for hot areas, slide fit systems etc. Quote
Swiss Toni Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 Ceramic Grease? That's a new one for me! First time I've ever heard of it! What is it, and where can I get some? Quote
Quist Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 In English: http://www.zettex.com/products/aerosols/14-lubrication/137-mp800-pressure-pack But almost every brand got ceramic grease nowadays, Eurol, Putoline, Zettex, Kroon Oil, and so on. Quote
canamant Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Or you could use Alumslip, good enough for a 12 month heat soak at 350C and still comes undone. 2 Quote
Gsxr750m Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 Copper slip and stainless Allen bolts works for me up to now , will try ceramic grease next time see how it goes 1 Quote
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