ZenViking Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 Does anyone have any suggestions for rear break caliper upgrade for my GSX1100EF 87 project? I'm planing(for now) to keep the original swingarm, I'm running a Bandit back wheel and I'm keen to se if i can't find something that can fit with some minor tweaks. Quote
johnr Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 if youre using a bandit wheel and disk, use a bandit caliper and hanger so you know it fits, you might need to make the spindle hole fit, but thats hardly the end of the world. 1 Quote
mikeyd Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 I've found that a 88-97 katana 600 rear caliper and hangar works well and bolted up to the torque arm easily, it's the caliper with a molded in bolt hole. It is dual piston. 1 Quote
ZenViking Posted December 31, 2018 Author Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, johnr said: if youre using a bandit wheel and disk, use a bandit caliper and hanger so you know it fits, you might need to make the spindle hole fit, but thats hardly the end of the world. Yes i was thinking of using the Bandit caliper but I want too upgrade to a bigger rear caliper and disk, 2 pistons seeing it's a big rigg. Edited December 31, 2018 by ZenViking correcting spelling/writing Quote
ZenViking Posted December 31, 2018 Author Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, mikeyd said: I've found that a 88-97 katana 600 rear caliper and hangar works well and bolted up to the torque arm easily, it's the caliper with a molded in bolt hole. It is dual piston. Thanks i'll look in to this, sounds like what I'm looking for. Quote
no class Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Zen..... going big in the rear is overkill. You can easily get wheel lock- up with a small caliper / disc set- up....... up front is where the action is . 2 Quote
Dezza Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 47 minutes ago, no class said: Zen..... going big in the rear is overkill. You can easily get wheel lock- up with a small caliper / disc set- up....... up front is where the action is . You've obviously not ridden an Italian bike or one with a similar all Brembo set up. You'd have to be wearing deep-sea divers' lead weighted boots to get the back to lock! 1 Quote
bluedog59 Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 If the back wheel isn't in the air, you're not braking hard enough. 1 Quote
no class Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Dezza said: You've obviously not ridden an Italian bike or one with a similar all Brembo set up. You'd have to be wearing deep-sea divers' lead weighted boots to get the back to lock! Actually Dez.....owned 2 pasta rockets in the past 97' 900ss and a 916...... tried my brothers 1199 panigale also......so yes.... I have ridden a few Italian bikes. All my "real" ( suzuki )bikes use HH pads.....and I rarely use the back brake . 2 Quote
ZenViking Posted December 31, 2018 Author Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, no class said: Zen..... going big in the rear is overkill. You can easily get wheel lock- up with a small caliper / disc set- up....... up front is where the action is . I thought it was go big or go home... but all jokes aside I have enough stoping power up front, or at least i think i have. My 1100W front fork came with the original 6 piston calipers so i'm planing to keep them. what i'm looking for in the back is a more modern duel piston, want to upgrade but wasn't planing to go for the biggest vice i found. Quote
johnr Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 massive wheel locking power on thee back could prove moree of a problem than a help. as soon as thee front brakes unload the rear suspension, you need very very little to lock the wheel, so massive braking power will just cause it to lock up every time. Quote
Reinhoud Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 I've got one from a RF900 on my GS1000, it brakes, but it's very hard to lock up the rear wheel, and that's why I'm pretty happy with it Quote
wraith Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 5:17 PM, Dezza said: You've obviously not ridden an Italian bike or one with a similar all Brembo set up. You'd have to be wearing deep-sea divers' lead weighted boots to get the back to lock! Well, that's answers a question i asked about if the Brembo stuff is any better than the Suzuki OEM stuff As to the rear brakes bit, apart from being a bit smaller and lighter the gsxr/bandit/rf etc caliper are all still twin opposing position as the 1980 gs/gsx ones, if it was me and if you're not swiping the rear wheel etc just put HH pads in but if you're swoping the rear wheel to a more modern one in the standard swing arm and need a one top caliper to go with the wheel any of the gsxf ones will work very well. Quote
fatblokeonbandit Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 You want one of these blue spots with brembo master cylinder, you do I just so happen to have no use for this lot.... Quote
Rene EFE Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 6:57 AM, mikeyd said: I've found that a 88-97 TEAPOT 600 rear caliper and hangar Fixxed 1 Quote
ZenViking Posted January 2, 2019 Author Posted January 2, 2019 6 hours ago, fatblokeonbandit said: You want one of these blue spots with brembo master cylinder, you do I just so happen to have no use for this lot.... Well if your not using it, then i don't see why i shouldn't Is that a pull action MC? I was thinking of stikking with the OEM MC, and just changing the caliper and brake lines. But if it's a pull action MC i'm definitely interested. PM me Quote
fatblokeonbandit Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 no its an R1 push type, i was going to put t on my tpot, but then found the right one Quote
Rene EFE Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 I've got a GSXR caliper on mine, with a hackjob hanger. Works absolutely fine and really don't want/need anything stonger or more aggressive (and there's not a person on the planet that uses more back brake than me) 1 Quote
ZenViking Posted January 2, 2019 Author Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, fatblokeonbandit said: i was going to put t on my tpot, but then found the right one The right one being? I could still be interested in the caliper, I'm waiting to hear from a guy in Sweden about some salvaged parts. Can I send you a PM if the parts from Sweden don't measure up? Quote
ZenViking Posted January 2, 2019 Author Posted January 2, 2019 In general i'm not looking for 1 hour ago, Rene EFE said: I've got a GSXR caliper on mine, with a hackjob hanger. Works absolutely fine and really don't want/need anything stonger or more aggressive (and there's not a person on the planet that uses more back brake than me) Love the bike, really like that gray base color. and i can't even see that little piece of iron welded on the inside of the swingarm As for the breaks i'm not looking for some super agro rear break setup. Just want something with better stopping power than my old EFE oven mitts. Quote
fatblokeonbandit Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 No problem matey, it's not going anywhere, I found I had an original tpot calliper and master cylinder that I used Quote
Reinhoud Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 9 hours ago, wraith said: Well, that's answers a question i asked about if the Brembo stuff is any better than the Suzuki OEM stuff As to the rear brakes bit, apart from being a bit smaller and lighter the gsxr/bandit/rf etc caliper are all still twin opposing position as the 1980 gs/gsx ones, if it was me and if you're not swiping the rear wheel etc just put HH pads in but if you're swoping the rear wheel to a more modern one in the standard swing arm and need a one top caliper to go with the wheel any of the gsxf ones will work very well. Brembo also has to obey the laws of physics... Quote
TLRS Posted January 6, 2019 Posted January 6, 2019 Generally speaking, it seems Nissin and Brembo are both rated higher then Tokico. Didn't the Busa come with a slightly larger disc? If you need that extra leverage and mass to keep the heat in the rear brake down a bit.. Pretty sure there is a gold rear caliper with alloy pistons of later gixers that is a straight fit onto many Suzi's. But there is also one with a different bolt spacing so beware. Pretty sure I've got one of the latter, free to a good home (it's in NL). Quote
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