SiBag Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Oh wise and noble town folk of OSS. Dumb question time. Whate the differences between the TL and the SV power plants, injectors etc. ? Or are the basically the same engine? Cheers. 1 Quote
Rncv Posted January 28 Posted January 28 From memory TL has higher compression than the SV, not sure what else. Quote
gsx Posted January 28 Posted January 28 That's a really good question but both shockingly cheep now , b and b in Lincoln got a mint tl for 2.5 Quote
DAZ Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) I believe the tl has different clutch ( better) than the sv/ Vstrom and the crankcase has difference too apparently the rear engine mounts are different(wider?) , sv and Vstrom being the same design Edited January 28 by DAZ Addition Quote
TLRS Posted January 28 Posted January 28 There are lots of differences, big and small. For instance, the TLS/TLR and SV all have their own injection system. Any specific information you are looking for? Quote
baldrick Posted January 30 Posted January 30 ive ridden both, the tl engine is miles better. the sv feels like a sanitised restricted version of the tl . 2 Quote
TonyGee Posted January 30 Posted January 30 43 minutes ago, baldrick said: ive ridden both, the tl engine is miles better. the sv feels like a sanitised restricted version of the tl . yeah i agree, the TL's have an evil engine and just want to wheelie all the time, nearly looped a customers TLR once just a bit too much throttle, fecking shit myself 2 Quote
TLRS Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Yeah early ones are the most entertaining.. also most problematic. 1 Quote
TonyGee Posted January 30 Posted January 30 57 minutes ago, TLRS said: Yeah early ones are the most entertaining.. also most problematic. yeah ive fitted new frames to 2 of them, and had the top end off another, fecking cam timing is a nightmare, you really need to read the factory manual closely 2 Quote
TLRS Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Had a '97 one. Had some clutch issues so changed the springs (early 5 spring clutch) which helped a lot. Then one day I gave it some and either the back torque limiter thingy in the clutch slipped or the wheel slipped.. something grabbed pretty firmly. Mag wheel with minimal cush probably didn't help. Anywho, engine didn't feel happy after that.. rode it some more.. maybe 50 miles. Tore into the engine and noticed the big end had sheared about 3/4 of the way around 1 Quote
baldrick Posted January 31 Posted January 31 big ends are a common point of failure on these usually spun bearings. im on the third tl, i love em. i just sold an absolute stunner. it took me years to find an original like this, it was absolutely like new, and i had to travel to Nottingham for it, (from the NE of Scotland)...hows that for devotion. ,mon the Tls, but as you probably know the S is better than the R 1 Quote
TonyGee Posted January 31 Posted January 31 28 minutes ago, baldrick said: i had to travel to Nottingham for it, (from the NE of Scotland)...hows that for devotion. I was impressed when you came all the way down to the west coast of Cumbria 1 Quote
baldrick Posted January 31 Posted January 31 38 minutes ago, TonyGee said: I was impressed when you came all the way down to the west coast of Cumbria that was just a little (700 mile) round trip jaunt i did elgin to nottingham and stopped in yorkshire on route picked up a tl in bradistan and the minter, in nottingham. made it down and back as far as perth before i had to give in or crash/fall asleep at the wheel hahahaha 3 hrs kip in back of the van then another 2&1/2 hours home Quote
Matt-Man Posted February 7 Posted February 7 On 1/30/2025 at 5:36 PM, TonyGee said: yeah i agree, the TL's have an evil engine and just want to wheelie all the time, nearly looped a customers TLR once just a bit too much throttle, fecking shit myself You wanna try riding a 250hp Turbo TL…. Its proper fun! 2 Quote
Matt-Man Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Dabble in TL’s a little bit here… The SV shares more in common with early V-Stroms opposed to the TL series. S and R share the same crankcase geometry as in you can fit an R more into an S and vice versa; however the internals differ. Post 98 S Models were fitted with bigger output shaft bearings and a 6 bolt clutch. The heads were slightly worked too. 97 TLS models fell more raw, but the reality is that the fuelling was all over the place with the ‘00’ ECU’s. The 97 motor with the ‘01’ ECU is the combo to have its got the proper TL kick with decent fuelling, and will beat any TLR if you fit a decent race system like an Akra or a Yoshi. The SV engine has different cases so are not interchangeable as straight swap. Don’t know much about the injection system as I’ve never had an SV. Some SV engine parts do fit a TL motor. I have SV rods in the Turbo KaTL as they have a wider base at the big end so wider shells can be fitted to the TL crank. 3 Quote
TLRS Posted February 8 Posted February 8 ^ this '97 had round port intake in the head. After that the TL heads got a flat bottom in the intake runner. TLR got forged pistons too btw. 1 Quote
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