cheese monkey Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 While I'm not a stranger to engine transplants this one looks pretty tight on the clearances. Anyone done it? A project in the making Quote
Rene EFE Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Can't imagine the frames being a lot different between the 2, my guess is a straight swap. Just the bottom mount 10/12mm like any 7/11 Quote
legolamb Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 They made a 1200 version of this so I'd imagine the frame will take both, but they didn't import it to the UK, I've got the same plan for mine, just got to get round to it. Quote
rdubandit Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Really jealous that you have access to that bike. None imported to the US. Quote
Fastbyme Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 1200 fits along with loads of other bits ......... More fun than slapping ur self silly with a newspaper 1 Quote
GSX750Inazuma Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 i believe you have to raise the tank slightly for it too fit, not sure whether its the rubbers at the front or at the rear, Jason has one on GSX Inazuma page on FB Quote
husky dog Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Think its rears.as fuel tap.catches carbs Quote
MotoCCM Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Fastbyme, i'm a newbe and am going to be starting this conversion soon, got a ratty hsx750 and picked up a b12 lump to drop in it, when you did yours what electrics did you use?, b12 loom? or gsx?.Got loads of questions as its my first go at a real project. Quote
cheese monkey Posted October 22, 2015 Author Posted October 22, 2015 I intend on using GSX loom with 1200 CDI if that helps! Or may do a custom loom not sure yet. 1 Quote
MotoCCM Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Hi Cheese Monkey, yeah was thinking of doing the same, do you know if the coils are the same as the B12, not sure which carbs to use though either.From what i know the Inazuma 1200 uses the same carbs as the 750 with different internals, I've got a set from both the 750 and the B12 so will probably have to see what works.I've lost my build space at the moment so mine is on hold for a few weeks. Quote
Mad Ax Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I hope this isn't too late to the party but I did a similar swap a few years back, with an 1127 into a 750 Inazuma.To confirm, the lump wait straight into the frame with no problems whatsoever, IIRC using all the original engine mounts and bolts.I don't remember any issues with the fuel tap not clearing the top of the lump, but it was a long time ago now. I do remember the bottom of the tank is very, very close to the top of the lump.Regards to the loom, I'm pretty sure I used the loom and CDI from the 750. The wiring on the 1127 CDI was totally different. I had to take the timing rotor off the 750 motor and put it into the 1127 as they were totally different shapes. I do remember having a hell of a time doing this as the hex bolt holding the 1127 rotor in place had been chewed up - if I didn't remember hours and hours of drilling and grinding to get it out, I'd have told you l'd used the 1127 CDI and loom. Because that's what any sensible person would do.However you get on, you won't regret the swap - my Inazuma was an absolute riot with that motor installed, and I always regretted having to let it go when I did. Quote
Oilyspanner Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Some good info Madax, I reckon there're a few interested in this idea, me included - the idea of the smart little 750 with a good breathing 1127 sounds very interesting ! Quote
cheese monkey Posted February 21, 2019 Author Posted February 21, 2019 FINALLY got my mitts on a b12 for a price I can afford. Gonna rip the engine out of it on the weekend. My GSX has had several years of hard labour (nearly 60k on the clocks) and is morphing into a proper rat bike (no im not sorry). But its soon to be a rat on crack. Going to do as Madax says and use the 750 cdi and swap the 750 rotor into the 12 engine rather than mincing about looms. Anyone aware of any potential issues doing this? Rev limit is a grand more on the 750 but I'm sure I can live with that haha Quote
1100fred Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 Don’t need to swop the rotor on the engine it’s the same and if you have a mk1 bandit cdi it plugs straight in Quote
1100fred Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 I’d fit the 1200 cdi don’t know if the valves will live with the 750 one Quote
dupersunc Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 All my 7/11s have run 750cdi, they'll be fine. The engines run out of puff well before you hit the limiter. Quote
cheese monkey Posted February 22, 2019 Author Posted February 22, 2019 Thanks chaps. Got started with stripping the B12 down this evening. Its a total shed. I though about putting the 750 engine in it but I'd have to spend too much money on it to get it through MOT, safe enough to ride and presentable enough to sell. So its going to be torn down totally for spares. Spent a few hours on it and got all of the ancilliary stuff off. Amazed it hadnt burnt down to be honest the main fuel line was the worst I have ever seen. Cracked almost all the way through in several places. Still need to get the chain off, drain oil and drop the oil cooler off. I cant remember if its necessary to take the headers off to get the engine out? I expect it is however I would really rather not try the studs if I can avoid it for obvious reasons. Got all the engine mounts cracked easily so they are ready to go, so that was a result Quote
R1guy Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 On 10/5/2015 at 2:26 PM, cheese monkey said: While I'm not a stranger to engine transplants...... 3 minutes ago, cheese monkey said: I cant remember if its necessary to take the headers off to get the engine out? You can cut the frame instead? Quote
cheese monkey Posted February 22, 2019 Author Posted February 22, 2019 It was 10 years ago mate that I did the last one and there have been many many beers since then.... Chopping the frame is an option however I would rather not chop the GSX frame! Off they come then I guess. I'll start soaking in penetrating fluid in the morning. Quote
cheese monkey Posted February 23, 2019 Author Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Header bolts came straight out. Major relief. The 750 ones look properly ropey so I'm not so confident with them. May end up chopping the exhaust off and dealing with them later but will see how they go on the big day. The only unknown now is the airbox. I'm hoping I will be able to use the 750 airbox. I could put pods on but I'd rather not as it gets used year round and I dont want to cock up the fuelling too much Edited February 23, 2019 by cheese monkey Quote
cheese monkey Posted February 24, 2019 Author Posted February 24, 2019 The removable frame piece on the B12 had completely rotted through. Snapped it in half with my hands. Quote
Shill Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 Hey cheese, I am halfway through doing exactly this, think my thread is on page 2 or page 3. Also putting a Mk2 B12 into a GSX 750. I swapped the pulse gen and the neutral switch from the 750 to the 1200 so they will plug into the existing loom. General consensus seems to be that it will work fine on the 750 CDI, or the mk1 1200 CDI should plug in as a safe option. I have not changed the timing rotor itself, only the pickup. So far I've had it running and idling, but not on the road (now the engine is out again to drill the lower engine mount to the 12mm), so remains to be seen if that's an issue. Would people recommend changing the rotor as well? Have left the throttle position sensor disconnected for now as I was advised it "does fuck all" Quote
1100fred Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 The timing rotor is the is the same part for 1200 bandit and gsx750 Quote
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