Leblowski Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I always use a catchtank wich the both breathers are attached to, if you use a big enough hose from the clutch cover too the tank this wil also be your returnline Quote
Fula28 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Hi Dan, had wee look at the Trick ecu whilst I was up getting some fab work done looks nice job , bike will come good soon enough am sure, as for breathers I ran two 7/8" -1" breathers one from rocker cover and the other from clutch case both to catch bottle with baby Kn breather. Those motors need to breath with a blower , especially with refresh new rings ,etc.Keep us posted bud. Quote
Danm54 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 Its home! Took me all of 10 seconds to see this Thats the only breather jubilee clipped to the waste gate!I'm sure it was a mistake but its a pretty big one.There's spacers missing from the seat unit mounts as well and its been put on funny so a few things to sort out. Quote
Danm54 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 The more I see on the bike to more pissed off I'm getting, I've paid professionals to do a job and I expect a certain standard of work to come with that. I don't expect to bike to be returned damaged.The map sensor has been moved and is just floating around on top of the engine, the boost gauge sensor is just haanging off the front of the bike, the sub frame has been incorrecly refitted with spacers missing and as a result has twisted, the ecu was hanging out the frame with no obvious way it'll fit anywhere near where the wires will reach, the lambda sensor has the wires cut off so is now useless and worthless, I've got a new fuse box floating on top of the engine when theres 4 spare spaces in the existing one. The list will grow I'm sure and a lot of the work done I'll have to re do, assuming the ecu will actually fit somewhere. If people can't or don't to do the work why don't they just say so instead of fucking up someones bike. Quote
Captain Chaos Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 tell the "professionals" to pick up the bike and fix it, or else your money back. Quote
Danm54 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 I don't really know if I want to send it back, if they're happy letting this standard of work leave their workshop I'm not sure I want them working on my bike. Quote
Captain Chaos Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 legally you have to offer them a chance to fix their screw-ups, before you ask for your money back. Quote
Danm54 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 True, guess I'll just clean the turbo etc out, maybe get another breather in there and send it back with fingers crossed.I'd like to strip it a bit more and see what else has been done but I don't think I should. Quote
Captain Chaos Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Don't do anything, send it back ASAP or they will blame you for their f*ck ups. Quote
Danm54 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 He'll be getting a call in the morning thats for sure. I've fitted the front end and fairing and got some pics so that should keep the insurance happy.Will take the fairing off now, make the call tomorrow and see where we go from there. Quote
JLawson90 Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 definitely as chaos says, get the fuckers to fix it, and properly lol Quote
VJ Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Jeez, id be going apeshit if someone ballsed up that much Quote
Gixer1460 Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 That is a reasonable list to get shirty and shouty about. Know its early doors but a name might be useful - if only to be wary / avoid? Quote
Captain Chaos Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 That is a reasonable list to get shirty and shouty about. Know its early doors but a name might be useful - if only to be wary / avoid?let's wait and see how they handle their f*ck-ups Quote
VJ Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 to be honest, even if they rectified every problem without delay or hassle id still not want to send my bike to them for anything. Quote
Leblowski Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 I wouldnt send my bike back to a shop that wrecks it. I would try to negotiate about the refund and get it done elsewhere 1 Quote
Captain Chaos Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 I wouldnt send my bike back to a shop that wrecks it. I would try to negotiate about the refund and get it done elsewhereof course that would also be my first choice 2 Quote
JLawson90 Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 as chaos has said though, legally they have a right to try and fix their own mistakes before they have to give you your money back .. still worth a try though lol Quote
Danm54 Posted December 14, 2015 Author Posted December 14, 2015 Spoke to them this morning, I think the breather and sub frame are a genuine mistake on someones part and the sub frame will be sorted. It does need to be removed again to mount the ecu which is why spacers are missing, its just been bolted up too tight. The lambda isn't mine, its an old one to fill the hole whilst it was being set up. Currently the ecu doesn't use a lambda but I'd rather it did and it can be wired to use it, there was no mention of it not using the lambda on the quote and the ecu does support a wideband lambda so I'd assumed it would be used. The moved sensors etc will be mounted but as its not fully set up they've left them loose for ease of access etc. I'm not sure on top of the engine is the best place and the extra tubing and wiring isn't going to make a difference. They were accessible before so I'm still not sure why they were moved. As I've paid all the invoice except final mapping I'd assumed the actual install would be completed. This isn't the case which I think is a bit confusing really, if the invoice had said the mounting of the ecu and sensors needed finishing I'd have expected it to look like it did. A lack of communication has caused most of this really and it could have been easily avoided.The most annoying thing is if the breather wasn't connected wrong it would be fully mapped, fully installed and I'd have picked it up saturday a happy customer. It's going back this saturday to be finished properly and should return looking similar to when it went. Quote
Captain Chaos Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 so in other words their biggest fuck-up was the lack of communication. Quote
Danm54 Posted December 14, 2015 Author Posted December 14, 2015 Along with the breather and twisted sub frame yea.Maybe I was a bit quick to have a rant but its hardly surprising when I've paid out good money and receive the bike in that state. I'm still not happy with some things but I'll talk it over when I drop the bike back.Another 6 hour round trip.... Quote
JLawson90 Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) 6 hour round trip, where are they based, mordor!? I'd also be asking them to cover my fuel for this additional trip Edited December 14, 2015 by JLawson90 1 Quote
Gixer1460 Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 I may be simplifying things but if you'd mounted the ECU why did they take the bike apart to add a hook-up lead? Why move sensors if you positioned them sensibly and where you wanted them? Its not about mis communication - its about ineptitude! Mistaking a engine breather for a boost hose is fairly basic error by someone who either doesn't care or can't be bothered to care! They've likely lost any repeat business with the OP but what about others that don't know and get treated the same - i'd be fairly pissed if I could have been forewarned! 1 Quote
Danm54 Posted December 14, 2015 Author Posted December 14, 2015 The original ecu was playing up and finally stopped responding so they gave me a price for fitting a new one.I'd had suspicions that the original ecu was faulty but I'd just put it down to being set wrong, something they could sort out. As I didn't want to be in the same position in a few months I thought it best to pay for the ecu to be fitted by professionals, rather than do it myself and risk it not working again. Why you'd leave everything hanging in the breeze whilst running it on a dyno I don't know, there's a lot of heat around there so I'd think wires and sensors everywhere would be asking for trouble.Especially on top of the turbo! As for sensors being moved, I'm sure it would've been easier to wire them where they were, they're all on plugs. Quote
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