Johnfirstgs650gl Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 It's my first Suzuki its 1982 Suzuki gs650gl bought at a good price got it running had alot of issues carbs fuel tanks but had always been some what reliable about a week ago had a short at the fuse box and I haven't seen a lick of spark since I like to think I a pretty far mechanic on any gas engine but know when to find people with knowledge about this machine was running great really the best it had ran with no issues fuse box shorted to ground my fault I replaced coils one the old coils was cracked was hoping that's was it I did pickup a used signal generator because I couldn't find a igniter been doing research everything says dynatek but I don't believe the make anything for this model any help would be appreciated sorry I dropped in with my problems Quote
Blubber Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 Hi. Please post a picture of the bike and the component that you think is Dynatek. Pretty sure some will recognise the brand. Quote
TonyGee Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 thats one long fucking sentence !!!!!! 6 Quote
Blubber Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, TonyGee said: thats one long fucking sentence !!!!!! Yup. Noticed that too. It just shows how eager he is to get his bike back on the road . 2 Quote
PanzerWomble Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TonyGee said: thats one long fucking sentence !!!!!! Jack Kerouac's cousin maybe ? Big blown fuse suggests something gone phut . These are early CDI systems on GS650's I'm guessing . Can see then 2nd hand on Alibabababay for £90 Can't state fur sure but would guess similar vintage GS850 unit or even 1000 would be too far off, it's only a switch when all's said and done . Edited October 17, 2021 by PanzerWomble Quote
TonyGee Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 check if you have 12v at one of the coil wires with the ignition on, if you don't then its a power suply problem. if you do then its an ignition problem. ( pulse coil/CDI ) 1 Quote
Johnfirstgs650gl Posted October 18, 2021 Author Posted October 18, 2021 Sorry about the long sentence. I was pissed drove couple hundred miles to go to the biggest motorcycle junkyard in these parts. Spent couple hundred dollars. To be no closer then I was at the start. Hi everyone name is crazy john and thanks for any help. I will go take a pic of the bike. 2 Quote
Johnfirstgs650gl Posted October 18, 2021 Author Posted October 18, 2021 I guess long story short .Does anyone know of an ignition system or kit that will fit a 81 thru 83 gs650gl Quote
Johnfirstgs650gl Posted October 18, 2021 Author Posted October 18, 2021 14 hours ago, PanzerWomble said: Jack Kerouac's cousin maybe ? Big blown fuse suggests something gone phut . These are early CDI systems on GS650's I'm guessing . Can see then 2nd hand on Alibabababay for £90 Can't state fur sure but would guess similar vintage GS850 unit or even 1000 would be too far off, it's only a switch when all's said and done . Quote
Johnfirstgs650gl Posted October 18, 2021 Author Posted October 18, 2021 From what research I have done. The gs650gl 81 thru 83 is different and nobody makes a kit for it . That I can find .I did look in to used igniter only 2 that I can find on the internet .They wanted $100/$125 with a no return policy on electric parts. I went as far as emailing dynatek for help. There reply they don't offer one for that model at this time Quote
Johnfirstgs650gl Posted October 18, 2021 Author Posted October 18, 2021 12 hours ago, TonyGee said: check if you have 12v at one of the coil wires with the ignition on, if you don't then its a power suply problem. if you do then its an ignition problem. ( pulse coil/CDI ) Yes have 12v at coils witch where replaced 2/3 coil had crack down the side. Picked up another pulse coil even after mine passed omh test. I would buy a new ignition system if I can find one that will work on it. Quote
PanzerWomble Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 Perhaps email Boyer - their kits are pretty universal http://www.boyerbransden.com/suzuki.html Quote
Blubber Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Johnfirstgs650gl said: From what research I have done. The gs650gl 81 thru 83 is different and nobody makes a kit for it . That I can find .I did look in to used igniter only 2 that I can find on the internet .They wanted $100/$125 with a no return policy on electric parts. I went as far as emailing dynatek for help. There reply they don't offer one for that model at this time If i search for 32900-34210 this comes up. Upgraded CDI It states it fits these models: Suzuki GS650GL Suzuki GS650G Suzuki GS650GL Suzuki GS650M 1981 1982 1983 OEM Nummer: 32900-34210 ( 131100-2630 ) Repair site HTH Quote
wraith Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 Will a gs550 one work? Just thinking, as you can put the top end off the 650 onto a 550 bottom end and still use all the 550 electronic bits, the 550 CDI should do the same job as the 650? Quote
wraith Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 Also, are you not getting a spark on all 4 cylinders? If you have blown a fuse in a big way check that you still have main power Quote
TonyGee Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, wraith said: Will a gs550 one work? Just thinking, as you can put the top end off the 650 onto a 550 bottom end and still use all the 550 electronic bits, the 550 CDI should do the same job as the 650? i was thinking the same thing ? his looks like the one on my 1100 though that doesn't mean it'll work. but i wonder how different they all are ? 1 Quote
wraith Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TonyGee said: i was thinking the same thing ? his looks like the one on my 1100 though that doesn't mean it'll work. but i wonder how different they all are ? Yes and it also looks the same as on the kat 750 (important one that looks like the 1100 lol ) Bit different but I'm running a gsx750f CDI on my b12 powered ET and it work just fine. They all do the same basic job by turning the pulse from the atu to a signal to a coil to spark. Edited October 18, 2021 by wraith Add a bit 1 Quote
TonyGee Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 1 minute ago, wraith said: Yes and it also looks the same as on the kat 750 (important one that looks like the 1100 lol ) Bit different but I'm running a gsx750f CDI on my b12 powered ET and it work just fine. theirs a good chance that a CDI of another model will work as suzuki are well known for sharing parts, but its a case of finding the right one !!!!! 1 Quote
Blubber Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 My limited knowledge of these early style igniters is that the ignition curve is different and fixed. I too think an "CDI" from another model or even brand but same era will work. Electrexworld might also have something suitable. Universal CDI with 10 curves Quote
PanzerWomble Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 CDI box at heart ? .....it's only a switch , pulse signal in , capacitor discharge out ? and I doubt in the early 80's 60hp ish engine , it's going to be very sophisticated . No 3D mapping . Plus can you "slot " the pick ups to adjust the timing or it is all pegged ? Electrex , feck me that's a blast from the past and gobsmacked they are still going , I bought one of their reggy-rectumficators for my GS1000S back in 92(?) before I taught myself how to wire in Wetdream units and saved a bundle . 1 Quote
TonyGee Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, PanzerWomble said: CDI box at heart ? .....it's only a switch , pulse signal in , capacitor discharge out ? and I doubt in the early 80's 60hp ish engine , it's going to be very sophisticated . No 3D mapping . Plus can you "slot " the pick ups to adjust the timing or it is all pegged ? Electrex , feck me that's a blast from the past and gobsmacked they are still going , I bought one of their reggy-rectumficators for my GS1000S back in 92(?) before I taught myself how to wire in Wetdream units and saved a bundle . ah the wetdream mod, qiute popular back then 1 Quote
Johnfirstgs650gl Posted October 19, 2021 Author Posted October 19, 2021 23 hours ago, Blubber said: If i search for 32900-34210 this comes up. Upgraded CDI It states it fits these models: Suzuki GS650GL Suzuki GS650G Suzuki GS650GL Suzuki GS650M 1981 1982 1983 OEM Nummer: 32900-34210 ( 131100-2630 ) Repair site HTH I checked out the site that seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks man I looked for a week all over the net. I had emails with some guy at dynatek with no luck.i was hoping some fellow riders lend a help hand. Can't wait to order. Thanks again for the info . Will keep posting with up dates 2 Quote
Johnfirstgs650gl Posted October 19, 2021 Author Posted October 19, 2021 From what I have been learning they bolt different to the block and the timing advance works different. I know my gl has a oul sending unit in that area. Making the back plate require a cut out. 16 hours ago, wraith said: Will a gs550 one work? Just thinking, as you can put the top end off the 650 onto a 550 bottom end and still use all the 550 electronic bits, the 550 CDI should do the same job as the 650? Quote
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