Reinhoud Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) Gents, I'm thinking of putting a smaller chain on the 1000, anyone who has done this before? Did you notice any difference in performance? Or a more smooth running of the chain? I'm a pretty clueless regarding this, so all information is welcome. The amount of teeth on the sprockets changes too, doesn't it? I do have an off set sprocket on the front, and I'd like to keep the stock ratio, can anyone point me in the right direction, please? Thanks Edited November 15, 2019 by Reinhoud Quote
wraith Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 I put a 530 and then a 520 chain on my old gs1000 when I put a 5.5 gsxr rear wheel in it. Didn't notice any change in the running. the sprockets on both sizes are smaller in diameter than the standard 630. As to number of teeth I asked the same question and started a big argument between two or more of the OSS people (sorry about that ) so I ended up putting the same number of teeth sprockets on which seemed about right but I would think next time I'd up the rear by 2 teeth as it seemed a bit sluggish off the line mostly with the 520 the 530 did not feel that bad. Just so you know, I put the 520 in just to give that but more clearance and that (I'm told) depends on what make of chain you use? Always DID. 1 Quote
Boothy Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 I did a 530 conversion a few years ago on a S model. Front sprocket was 15 tooth and rear was 44 tooth. It worked very well indeed. Quote
80GS1000 Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 I have 17 front 48 rear tooth 520 sprockets on my GS1000 to maintain the stock gearing ratio of 2.82 Quote
BigT Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 There's not a noticable change in performance It's mostly to give one a wider and less expensive choice in chains. Priced a 630 lately? Front sprocket teeth go larger, as above No offset needed for stock wheels Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 I came across this chart when looking for sprocket for my conversion. Might be useful to someone. https://www.xam-japan.co.jp/sp-top/sp-suzuki/ Cheers Andrew. 2 Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 And chains, http://www.jtsprockets.com/chain/ Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 http://global.rk-japan.co.jp/products/motorcycle-chains/application/on-road/ 1 Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 http://www.vleonline.com/Counter PDF/CAT_39/CHAIN & SPROCKETS/RK_CHAIN_39_WEB.pdf Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 And the conversion from metric to imperial. http://convert-to.com/conversion/torque/convert-kgf-m-to-lbf-ft.html 1 Quote
Reinhoud Posted November 20, 2019 Author Posted November 20, 2019 7 hours ago, GSX1100dreamn said: And chains, http://www.jtsprockets.com/chain/ That worries me a bit, I thought that a 520 chain could handle enough power, but when I look at that chart it looks like I better keep my 630 chain.. Quote
Gixer1460 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, Reinhoud said: That worries me a bit, I thought that a 520 chain could handle enough power, but when I look at that chart it looks like I better keep my 630 chain.. As a supplier they have to be conservative in their recommendations - plenty on here use 520 chain on 130+hp bikes and I have a 530 chain with 370hp - I just have to change it a bit more frequently LOL! 1 Quote
CockneyRick Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 I have 520 on my GS1000, EFE & GSXR1100 drag bike. So far i still have my ankle 1 Quote
CockneyRick Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Reinhoud said: So, no reason to be scared? If you are worried, i'm sure there's a Honka dealer fairly close BTW that is a joke Edited November 20, 2019 by CockneyRick 1 Quote
Reinhoud Posted November 20, 2019 Author Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Gixer1460 said: As a supplier they have to be conservative in their recommendations - plenty on here use 520 chain on 130+hp bikes and I have a 530 chain with 370hp - I just have to change it a bit more frequently LOL! On a serious note, how often do you put a new chain on? I checked my chain the other day, and with only 7000km on it, it had a lot of clearence on the links... It is a Regina (got it from the local Suzuki dealer) I've heard this is not a good quality chain.. Quote
Gixer1460 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Don't really keep note of miles or age - just change when required. I guess using all the power all the time, chain life could be measured in days not years LOL! I think i've got a DID X ring chain at the moment but that's fairly low miles. 1 Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 If I am reading these tensile charts correctly, RK chain ultra XW ring 630GSV 11300 LBS/per ft 520GXW 8800 LBS/per ft JT chain 520 HDS 4020 kgf = 29076 LBS/per ft. I have used RK 630 and have been very happy with them, have never used a JT chain but if the tensile strength is accurate they seem VERY strong. I'll see if I can find DID brand for tensile strength. Cheers Andrew. Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GSX1100dreamn said: If I am reading these tensile charts correctly, RK chain ultra XW ring 630GSV 11300 LBS/per ft 520GXW 8800 LBS/per ft JT chain 520 HDS 4020 kgf = 29076 LBS/per ft. I have used RK 630 and have been very happy with them, have never used a JT chain but if the tensile strength is accurate they seem VERY strong. I'll see if I can find DID brand for tensile strength. Cheers Andrew. Here is DID chain, The best 520 on this chart is, DID VM 520 G/B 8050 lbs. Maybe the conversion for the JT chains is not correct but again they seem atleast twice as strong as anything else. methinks the conversion is a bit apples and oranges. I'll see if I can find a different conversion table. Edited November 20, 2019 by GSX1100dreamn typo Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, GSX1100dreamn said: Here is DID chain, The best 520 on this chart is, DID VM 520 G/B 8050 lbs. Maybe the conversion for the JT chains is not correct but again they seem atleast twice as strong as anything else. methinks the conversion is a bit apples and oranges. I'll see if I can find a different conversion table. Sorry here is the DID list, https://www.supersprox.com/did-chains/ Edited November 20, 2019 by GSX1100dreamn typo Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 This seems abit more line ball, https://www.translatorscafe.com/unit-converter/en-US/force/ Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Select force converter in the drop down box, kilogram-force left column, pound-force right column Phew clear as mud. Quote
Gixer1460 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 You are overthinking this - 520 = sufficiently strong, 530/532 = more than adequately strong, 630 = bridge building type over engineered for low powered 80's 'superbikes'! Quote
GSX1100dreamn Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Cheers GIXER1460, thought as much, thanks. Quote
wraith Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Had a 520 in the gsx1100f powered Kat (and I don't keep the revs down ) for about 2 summers now, had the standard new chain adjustment first rides but then it settled down and is still looking ok for one more summer. If you're worried about putting a 520 on and you have the room use a 530. I think (may be wrong on this) some of the new gsxr1000 use 520 chains. Quote
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