GSX 1100 F EFI

[Askamaskinservice]

That's the plan.

Looked at ARTTU and BLUBBER:s build .

Will defenetly not reach their quality, but i like the tech side of EFI.

Have had this in my mind for a long time, let's see if i can manage it.

GSXR 1000 K3 throttlebodies bought, check

SPEEDUINO kit , check.

Bluetooth, check

EFI pump, check.

Need a new tank, or two.(Catchtank)

Airbox or filters.

Need a crank missing-tooth wheel  24-2 Arttu, check

Wastefiresetup as original.

Igniter for the coils, check.

I will add , can i edit this post as i go along?

Yes i can.

 

Edited September 15, 2018 by Askamaskinservice

[Swiss Toni]

Yes, you can edit. But try to keep it in white text, or you may bring on an epileptic fit in us 'old timers'! 

[Askamaskinservice]

4 minutes ago, Swiss Toni said:

Yes, you can edit. But try to keep it in white text, or you may bring on an epileptic fit in us 'old timers'! 

Ha ha ha, will do.

[Arttu]

This was an oil cooled 1100F engine, right?

I wouldn't recommend 36-1 trigger wheel. If you are going to fit it under the original rotor cover the teeth will get so small that most of the sensors will have hard time reading them. Something like 16-24 teeth would be more suitable. If Speeduino supports that. I can deliver a 24-2 wheel that works with original pickup if you are interested.

I have never tested the Speeduino but I checked their documentation etc. some time ago. I got impression that it should be quite usable system. However, be prepared for some additional troubleshooting as probably there aren't too many systems running on similar engines yet.

[Askamaskinservice]

@Arttu maybe some trading, i've got Speeduino 0.3.2 and 0.4.2 if you are interested to try.

With bluetooth connection.

Yes oilcooled engine.

Opto is a way of doing it, the sensor originaly is that Hall or VR i haven't taken the time to look at it.

Speeduino supports most teethcounts and with or without camsync.

I want a really basic setup, just to get it started.

Original VRsensor on crank, IAT, TPS, MAP, Oil temp in head, Wastefire and batch injection.

What type of cranksensor are you using ?

This was on my engine i guess it's a manual chaintensioner.

Must resist......

 

 

Edited November 6, 2019 by Askamaskinservice
Added info

[Askamaskinservice]

Which V&H fits the oilcooled engine  in GSX 1100 F , 12001P or 12002P.

Or none of the above.

I don't mind cutting faring but it must clear the frame.

[Gixer1460]

Most oil cooled exhausts are similar around the headers / frame obviously but the variances come with sumps - some flat, some vee'd and some halved / cut away. Most sumps can be swopped around (with its oil pick-up of course) to fit any exhaust so either buy one that fits your sump or buy sump to fit exhaust.Haven't heard of that Speeduino before - just spent last couple of hours reading the Wiki on it - impressive and quite cheap for a DIY version - I might give it a go. Whilst 36-1 tooth wheels have been used - see attached, the tooth count does get a bit daft at high rpm especially with a VR pick-up....... a Hall device may work better but there isn't much space. I like the on-board MAP sensor that will be ok with a bar and a half of boost but I guess standalone GM 3 bar types could be added in lieu of onboard.

 

[Arttu]

7 hours ago, Askamaskinservice said:

@Arttu maybe some trading, i've got Speeduino 0.3.2 and 0.4.2 if you are interested to try.

With bluetooth connection.

Yes oilcooled engine.

Opto is a way of doing it, the sensor originaly is that Hall or VR i haven't taken the time to look at it.

Speeduino supports most teethcounts and with or without camsync.

I want a really basic setup, just to get it started.

Opto sensor on crank, IAT, MAP, Oil temp in head, Wastefire and batch injection.

What type of cranksensor are you using ?

 

I'm afraid that I won't have time for Speeduino experiments anytime soon...

I would guess that an opto sensor might have some difficulties with splashing oil inside the ignition cover. Original pickup sensor is VR type.

Oil temp probably works reasonably well as engine temp on these engines. But ideally you would want to measure the head temp. Or intake port temp to be accurate. I have been using sensor on cylinder block with good results.

Here is a pic of crank sensor setup. Original VR pickup and 24-2 wheel made for it.

 

[Askamaskinservice]

Then it will be standard VR-pickup.

Thanks for the support, feel free to jump in if you got any tip how i should proceed.

[Askamaskinservice]

So i have ordered a known working cranktrigger wheel.

Gotten the SPEEDUINO ecu together.

This is what it looks like, tomorrow i will stuff some software inside it.

Hopefully i will get the TB:s tomorrow to, need to make some fabrication on them.

[Gixer1460]

Does that board have the VR conditioner 'built in' - the v0.4 board doesn't - it's an add on? You'll need it with std pick-ups.

[Askamaskinservice]

It's an add on, if you look att top left corner there is a board that says LM1815 it'a my VR conditioner.

[Askamaskinservice]

Look what the postman got me today.

180€ from a wrecker in The Netherlands incl shipping.

[Askamaskinservice]

Is this the butterflies you delete?

[Arttu]

3 minutes ago, Askamaskinservice said:

Is this the butterflies you delete?

Yes, remove the secondary butterflies. On air filter side.

[Askamaskinservice]

6 minutes ago, Arttu said:

Yes, remove the secondary butterflies. On air filter side.

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[Askamaskinservice]

Here if you want to try it yourself, not my ad.

https://www.Eblag.com/sch/diy-efi/m.html?item=283119496204&hash=item41eb3cac0c%3Ag%3AHRYAAOSwElJagf1v&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

[coombehouse]

Couple of questions

Is the spacing between the pairs of throttle bodies ok for your engine.

Will they fit your inlet rubbers

[Askamaskinservice]

No i have to separate them by 11mm i think.

Haven't measured my inletrubbers but i doubt they fit, someone done this operation and knows what fits?

 

Edited April 4, 2019 by Askamaskinservice
Wrong measurement.

[Askamaskinservice]

So the GSXR1000K3 Throttle bodies are 46mm wide where they should fit the intakerubberboot with 80mm cc even spacing on all four.

TB: are 90mm long.They are  70mm whithout the flanges.

What else do any of you want to know as i have them on my desk right now.

[Askamaskinservice]

Throttlebodies to big, look for yourself.

 

Its missing a couple of cylinders.......

 

Anyway the Trigger wheel was a perfect fit.

 

[Askamaskinservice]

So connection of sorts.

Now i have to work for a couple of days, playtime over.

[jensvonbustenskjold]

Very cool! I'm thinking of doing the same with my GS1000G.

Following this thread**

[Askamaskinservice]

So done a bit more tonite.

Blue from VR is leadingedge/rising and yellow is trailingedge/falling.

Igniter 32900-48b10 pinout, i know i had it i will insert here when i find it.