wraith Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just been looking on that site and had a look at a gs1000 which he says has gsx1100 cams put in it and a gsx1100 clutch, amung over bits. Not shoure about the cams bit as one is 8v and the other is a 16v, but can you put a gsx1100 clutch in a gs1000 and whats the benafit? Anybody know Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, wraith said: Just been looking on that site and had a look at a gs1000 which he says has gsx1100 cams put in it and a gsx1100 clutch, amung over bits. Not shoure about the cams bit as one is 8v and the other is a 16v, but can you put a gsx1100 clutch in a gs1000 and whats the benafit? Anybody know Cams are completely different.......... GSX clutch has extra plates ......so you need basket and hub.......I think they put the GSX basket on the GS gear.......Garry Hurd or Roger Upperton will know 100% Quote Link to comment
gsx Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Practical sports bike ran a feature on some bloke that built an xr 69 from scratch including frame and arm , Reckoned hardest part was making a gsx clutch fit a gs Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, gsx said: Practical sports bike ran a feature on some bloke that built an xr 69 from scratch including frame and arm , Reckoned hardest part was making a gsx clutch fit a gs It's not that hard,,,they use the same plates and gearbox shaft is same length and spline...swopping the gear is hardly the most challenging of jobs for a decent machine / fab shop Edited February 26, 2016 by Duckndive Quote Link to comment
gsx Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Don't have any experience of this myself but this month's mag is worth a read. . Every days a school day ! 1 Quote Link to comment
slingshed Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 On 25 February 2016 at 7:16 PM, wraith said: Just been looking on that site and had a look at a gs1000 which he says has gsx1100 cams put in it and a gsx1100 clutch, amung over bits. Not shoure about the cams bit as one is 8v and the other is a 16v, but can you put a gsx1100 clutch in a gs1000 and whats the benafit? Anybody know Did they remember to fit the Gsx powerband? Quote Link to comment
wraith Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 Cheers all, thought the cams bit was bs, so as I am building a tuned gs1000 motor (1100cc, cams etc) is it worth putting a gsx clutch in my GS, as I was going to put HD springs in the basket anyways and which gsx1100 clutch do I use? The 1100et or 1100efe? Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, wraith said: Cheers all, thought the cams bit was bs, so as I am building a tuned gs1000 motor (1100cc, cams etc) is it worth putting a gsx clutch in my GS, as I was going to put HD springs in the basket anyways and which gsx1100 clutch do I use? The 1100et or 1100efe? You would need an ET basket and Hub....IIRC Primary gear has 87T same as 2v motor..... Edited February 27, 2016 by Duckndive Quote Link to comment
wraith Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Been looking on that site and their seems to be two types of clutch basket/hub, one has a solid outer like a gs850/1000g and the other has slots like the gs1000 chain drive has. So which is the right one off/for the gsx1100et? Edited February 28, 2016 by wraith Put the et bit I Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 ET basket is Solid ...I may have one .....will have to check Quote Link to comment
wraith Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Will the gs1000 clutch plats fit the gsx basket? Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 14 minutes ago, wraith said: Will the gs1000 clutch plats fit the gsx basket? fibres defiantly do... I think you need to turn to O/D off the steels down a few mm... Quote Link to comment
johnr Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 or couldnt you use a gs750 primary drive and clutch backplate gear, allowing you straight cut primarys rather than the hellical cut of the gs1000/gsx1100? Quote Link to comment
wraith Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 I have a gs750 gear box which is going in the motor Quote Link to comment
Duckndive Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) Right then curiosity got the better after I read the article mentioned ..... So I chucked a GS 1000 box in a set of cases ........and yes the basket don't go straight in.... But TBH 1/2 hr. with a grinder would have it in as its the web on the cases that's stopping it...in fact if you was to grind the case where "the cover bolt is on right of pic" it would need about 3 - 4mm off the basket.....or massage the web on the cases..."that,s what I did on me EFE cases to make it easier to get me slider hat off" if ya man took 6mm of the basket and then the same off the face of the hub "as that what it looks like in his article" then his hub is going to be loads weaker... ANy ways as they say a pic is better than a load of drivel so make your own minds up............. PS its not rocket science to work out the dims as you hardy have to keep taking it apart all the time.....but then that would not make column inches would it .. Edited March 5, 2016 by Duckndive 3 Quote Link to comment
Swirl Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Interesting something else for me to explore 1 Quote Link to comment
CockneyRick Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 SPS has the answer to this, at a cost https://www.suzukiperformancespares.co.uk/product/gs1000-clutch-conversion-spacer-plate/2200/ Quote Link to comment
Reinhoud Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 2/26/2016 at 7:57 AM, Duckndive said: Cams are completely different.......... GSX clutch has extra plates ......so you need basket and hub.......I think they put the GSX basket on the GS gear.......Garry Hurd or Roger Upperton will know 100% GSX clutch fits a GS1000, but you need to take about 7mm of the basket. Quote Link to comment
Reinhoud Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) On 3/4/2016 at 3:55 AM, wraith said: Will the gs1000 clutch plats fit the gsx basket? Yes. I have a GSX1100 basket in my GS1000, again, about 7mm need to be taken off, you need a lathe to do that, or be a master with a hecksaw Edited April 23, 2020 by Reinhoud 1 Quote Link to comment
CockneyRick Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Surely if you're taking meat off the clutch basket, in effect you're turning it into a GS1000 basket & defeating the point? That's why SPS has produced that (7mm?) spacer plate so you keep the extra plates in the GSX clutch, & also explains why the rack is longer on std & lockup versions 2 Quote Link to comment
Swirl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 The spacer looks the way to go to me although more cash to spend Quote Link to comment
CockneyRick Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Yep that's the downside! So basically you're doing a clutch swap but not a lockup? Quote Link to comment
Swirl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 59 minutes ago, CockneyRick said: Yep that's the downside! So basically you're doing a clutch swap but not a lockup? Can you do a lockup on the Gsx basket in the GS motor Quote Link to comment
CockneyRick Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 As i see it you'd have to use 2 spacers. 1 for the difference in basket depth, then 2nd one for the lockup itself. Both can be had from SPS. Or 1 big one that would have to be specifically made! Quote Link to comment
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