manden Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 Hello mates. Has anyone ever tried to straighten the needles of their carbs? I'm thinking about giving it a try, so if it's a bad thing to do them please stop me before I start modding them Quote
Gixer1460 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 Firstly why and how did they get 'bent'? Not sure i've ever heard of anyone bending needles! Bearing in mind how accurately they are machined / made, any deviation is likely to touch the jet causing increased wear, so i'd probably say no - but you've nothing to lose by trying! 1 Quote
Gsxrsam Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 Tis the plastic piece that holds needle that wears out and tilts needle..... There is a alloy replacement... Quote
Baron Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 I just cut flat spot to the plastic washers with side cutters. Works like a charm. Quote
manden Posted September 5, 2021 Author Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) I'm doing it Tuesday. Happy plinger day Edited September 5, 2021 by manden Quote
manden Posted September 6, 2021 Author Posted September 6, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 11:16 AM, Gixer1460 said: Firstly why and how did they get 'bent'? Not sure i've ever heard of anyone bending needles! Bearing in mind how accurately they are machined / made, any deviation is likely to touch the jet causing increased wear, so i'd probably say no - but you've nothing to lose by trying! Standard the needle is angled against the emulsion tube for "silent operation in idle" Quote
Gixer1460 Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, manden said: Standard the needle is angled against the emulsion tube for "silent operation in idle" So the 'needle' isn't bent - its how it is fixed makes it wonky! And i'm not sure anyone was serious when describing that to ensure it was "silent operation in idle" That's the most BS excuse ever! Everyone since carbs were developed knows the needle should be essentially be centred in the jet. A pretty reliable method just uses a spring behind the spring to hold it down but allow a degree of lateral movement / wobble to account for the slide moving. Quote
Oilyspanner Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 I've spent several years peeing around with the needles, worn needle jets/emulsion tubes etc. My findings back up what G1460 said. You need spacers that hold the needles central and within spec carb slide guides, mine were worn, too much slop and the needle will be moving all over the place, causing wear and incorrect fuel monitoring. You'll notice a 0.05 mm difference on the needle/needle jet orifice gap. Quote
manden Posted September 8, 2021 Author Posted September 8, 2021 It's how suzuki describe why they did it. Quote
manden Posted September 8, 2021 Author Posted September 8, 2021 Run these or standard single hole slides? Quote
Upshotknothole Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/8/2021 at 9:54 AM, manden said: Run these or standard single hole slides? Depends on the jet kit, dynojet plugs them, factory pro doesn't. Quote
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