Gixer1460 Posted February 1, 2021 Posted February 1, 2021 Plenty big enough to suck air in enough to disrupt carb balancing. Obviously a bit ironic trying to balance all the others to the 'datum' which isn't working right LOL! 1 Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 1, 2021 Author Posted February 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Gixer1460 said: Plenty big enough to suck air in enough to disrupt carb balancing. Obviously a bit ironic trying to balance all the others to the 'datum' which isn't working right LOL! I love doing things the wrong way round, excuse 4 bbqs & beer. Quote
TonyGee Posted February 1, 2021 Posted February 1, 2021 you can take the complete airbox off and it won't make the idle hang, it can effect the running though. 1 Quote
Swiss Toni Posted February 1, 2021 Posted February 1, 2021 Well, seeing as your #3 inlet rubber is foobarr’d, I’d take a good look at the other three as well! 1 Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 1, 2021 Author Posted February 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, TonyGee said: you can take the complete airbox off and it won't make the idle hang, it can effect the running though. Argh....Man....Well, I'll install them tomorrow, AFTER re-re-re-re-recleaning carbs, specially pilot circuit...I think....I don't know how to think..... Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 1, 2021 Author Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, Swiss Toni said: Well, seeing as your #3 inlet rubber is foobarr’d, I’d take a good look at the other three as well! Yep ! None of the other 3 have any cracks, well, slowly slowly finding things...We'll hit the bell sooner or later! Quote
Pudzrx Posted February 1, 2021 Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) Only way to properly clean the pilot jet circuits is ultrasonically imho. Which you haven't done yet you say. Also air leak on the airfilter side of the carb wont make that much difference when not under load , would on the cylinder head side tho. Puddy Edited February 1, 2021 by Pudzrx 1 Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 2, 2021 Author Posted February 2, 2021 Nope Dez And I spoke with mechanics of the area, they say they would open the motor! Spain, or at least this part of Spain is crappy mechanicaly talking, dirty quick fix for a about 400€ and they wait for you to come with another problem. Quote
Swiss Toni Posted February 2, 2021 Posted February 2, 2021 If you can’t get them dipped in the ultrasonic tank, see if you can get hold of some Yamaha Carb Cleaner. Follow the instructions. Choke on. Hold throttle wfo, hit the starter for maybe 20 seconds, and it gets drawn into system. I tried all kinds of cleaners, and this is the only one that shifts all that gum, laquer ect. Get the black bottle/red label type. Yellow label, no good! 1 Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 2, 2021 Author Posted February 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Swiss Toni said: If you can’t get them dipped in the ultrasonic tank, see if you can get hold of some Yamaha Carb Cleaner. Follow the instructions. Choke on. Hold throttle wfo, hit the starter for maybe 20 seconds, and it gets drawn into system. I tried all kinds of cleaners, and this is the only one that shifts all that gum, laquer ect. Get the black bottle/red label type. Yellow label, no good! Thanx Toni! I'll have a look online...It's got to be black petrol gum in there like most of you say. Quote
Swiss Toni Posted February 2, 2021 Posted February 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Swiss Toni said: I should have added ... Leave for a few hours and drain the bowls. If really shitty, repeat or, run fresh gas through until clear. 1 Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 2, 2021 Author Posted February 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, Swiss Toni said: I should have added ... Leave for a few hours and drain the bowls. If really shitty, repeat or, run fresh gas through until clear. That one? Quote
Swiss Toni Posted February 2, 2021 Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) No. This stuff. The part number’s on the bar-code! Edited February 2, 2021 by Swiss Toni 1 Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 2, 2021 Author Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Swiss Toni said: No. This stuff. The part number’s on the bar-code! Ah! Amigo! Thanx Swiss! Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 3, 2021 Author Posted February 3, 2021 Got all the jets soaking in apple vinegar while waiting for the 20 bux ultrasonic cleaner All diaphragms out, got the carbs full of carb cleaner, got thing guitar strings through the carb "tunnels", compressed air, more carb cleaner....Can't find that yamaha carb cleaner easily...We'll see what happens! Quote
Dezza Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 If you strip your carbs completely to remove ALL rubber and plastic, you can then soak the metal bits overnight in a mixture of cellulose thinners and acetone. This will cause the varnish to quickly evacuate your carbs. It will also do the same to the local fire brigade from their station if extreme care is not taken though I have used this method several times before and it works well. You need a sealed container (not plastic) or otherwise much of the (highly volatile) solvent will evaporate. 2 Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 3, 2021 Author Posted February 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dezza said: If you strip your carbs completely to remove ALL rubber and plastic, you can then soak the metal bits overnight in a mixture of cellulose thinners and acetone. This will cause the varnish to quickly evacuate your carbs. It will also do the same to the local fire brigade from their station if extreme care is not taken though I have used this method several times before and it works well. You need a sealed container (not plastic) or otherwise much of the (highly volatile) solvent will evaporate. Thanx Dez, good tip! THe thing is that I completely removed carbs about a month ago to change the fuel pipe orings but didn't do a deep clean....But I've got another set of carbs separated....I'll give them a try Cheers m8 Quote
Dezza Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, SATANSAM said: Thanx Dez, good tip! THe thing is that I completely removed carbs about a month ago to change the fuel pipe orings but didn't do a deep clean....But I've got another set of carbs separated....I'll give them a try Cheers m8 Should be easy then and all the screws should come out OK. I think I can disassemble my EFE carbs completely in about 30min flat seeing as I have had so much practice. 1 Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 3, 2021 Author Posted February 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dezza said: Should be easy then and all the screws should come out OK. I think I can disassemble my EFE carbs completely in about 30min flat seeing as I have had so much practice. Yep, worst scenario will be getting those stripped ones into this ultrasonic thing individually, everything....We're getting there...But, if what is wrong would of been the motor I WOULD OF THROWN THE WHOLE THING DOWN THE CLIFF, CARBS INCLUDED. Quote
Pudzrx Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 41 minutes ago, SATANSAM said: Hep Hep hep!!! Frying tonight ! Lol Its the carb bodies you really need to deep cleanse ultrasonically if you can. Puddy Quote
Swiss Toni Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Failing an ultrasonic bath, can you get hold of any carb dip like the Yanks use? I think there was a Gunk one. There are a few more, just can’t remember what the are! There have been various home made concoctions, lemon juice, Pinesol ect. Quote
SATANSAM Posted February 5, 2021 Author Posted February 5, 2021 Well, a lot shit came out of the jets with the lidl fryer, and had carbs soaked in vinegar, break cleaner, universal degreaser, and God knows what else... The fact is that loox like the thing is working...Now I can lower the idle by shutting mixture screwWell, might be the scoth they gave today... Quote
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