Back in Game Harris Mag 2

[Allspeeds]

Just now, imago said:

I do, as do the others I mentioned. Basically whoever you take/send it to on that list will do the same thing, run through the checks to see if it's usable as is, needs work/parts or is scrap. 

 

Can I send you it please 

[Allspeeds]

3 minutes ago, imago said:

It might already have the oversized valves in as it sounds like it had a fair bit of work done to it. 

Could you let me know stock sizes il measure the seats ( don’t have valves & cams yet he’s posting them on once found)

[imago]

9 minutes ago, Allspeeds said:

Could you let me know stock sizes il measure the seats ( don’t have valves & cams yet he’s posting them on once found)

I can give you both tomorrow, can't remember off the top of my head.

 

15 minutes ago, Allspeeds said:

Can I send you it please 

Yes not a problem, I'll message you my number etc. 

[Dezza]

MH Racing will re-build older WP stuff.

[Allspeeds]

5 hours ago, Dezza said:

MH Racing will re-build older WP stuff.

Il have a think I use Maxton a lot Richard is great to deal with and I’d like to track day it so I’m thinking shock and fork cartridge kit 

[Allspeeds]

Not all plain sailing the old alloy into steel siezed situations they didn’t come easily 

[Allspeeds]

Hopefully dropping at SSS coatings Monday going to give them a try sounded to be clued up in the phone this morning 

[imago]

1 hour ago, Allspeeds said:

Hopefully dropping at SSS coatings Monday going to give them a try sounded to be clued up in the phone this morning 

You're not pissing about are you? 

[Allspeeds]

Be nice to have chassis sat on stands for Xmas then focus on building engine dropping cases off for vapour blasting Wednesday hopefully 

[Allspeeds]

Ok fellow OSS does anyone have a picture of a mag 2 subframe as it would of come from Harris?

 

I’ve realised the loop on the rear of my frame isn’t of Harris origin so I’m having it cut off and dressed up tomorrow and the battery box mounts are pissed so il have them re done, also bye removing that loop it doesn’t restrict me so much on seat choice at this point I can just make a bolt on alloy mount once decided 

[Allspeeds]

Turns out the seat unit is a carbon yzr500 job but as nice as it is il be changing it I think 

[Allspeeds]

I suppose many came as a blank canvas did they? 

[clivegto]

33 minutes ago, Allspeeds said:

I suppose many came as a blank canvas did they? 

 

Now you've opened a can of mag2 worms . 

From what I've learned there are 3 basic types of mag2 battery boxes. Fiberglass ones in the seat unit which used to crack so they made a steel one like my 2nd Magnum in the pic. There was also a verse with the battery under the seat which I also think was fiberglass. Ask John Schoon on FB he used to work for them and has all the frame designs and tube angles. Your welcome to borrow my 2nd frame if you want.  

Edited November 25 by clivegto

[Allspeeds]

2 minutes ago, clivegto said:

 

Now you've opened a can of mag2 worms . 

From what I've learned there are 3 basic types of mag2 battery boxes. Fiberglass ones in the seat unit which used to crack so they made a steal one like my 2nd Magnum in the pic. There was so a verse with the battery under the seat which I also think was fiberglass. Ask John Schoon on FB he used to work for them and has all the frame designs and tube angles. Your welcome to borrow my 2nd frame if you want.  

Could you measure the distance from back side of the subframe support to that bridge bracket before the battery box is just like to know how much my subframe has clearly been chopped already  this was mine underneath it was a bracket on a bracket on a bracket!!! I think if mine is already short rather than piss about il just loose another inch and start fresh rather than removing and dressing up and just have two new battery box mounts fitted an inch further forward job done 

[Allspeeds]

So this style clearly has battery in seat like you mentioned so rails just left straight cut no bridge etc

[Allspeeds]

I really like this seat I remember it been in the Harris catalogs but I can’t find them anywhere Mike of even been NWS seat 

[Dezza]

As Clive states, early Mag 2s had the battery in the seat. They then progressed to having a removable battery box with rails that slides over the ends of the frame rails and was clamped in place. Finally, from the mid to late 80s the battery box was integrated into the frame, as shown in Clive's pic. I think earlier Mag 1s, the frames of which are very similar, had a wider variety of seats and battery positions though.

There are a few pics here of my mag 2, which has the later improved battery box and uses stock bodywork.

 

Edited November 26 by Dezza

[clivegto]

8 hours ago, Allspeeds said:

I really like this seat I remember it been in the Harris catalogs but I can’t find them anywhere Mike of even been NWS seat 

 

Thats a Rotax seat unit as fitted to a lot of mag4's, Yea I know it's a ma2 in the pic. I have one some where.  

[Allspeeds]

Thanks Clive legend 

[dupersunc]

You can get the Harris Rotax seat units from King Carbon

[Allspeeds]

3 hours ago, dupersunc said:

You can get the Harris Rotax seat units from King Carbon

I know I’ve just ordered one 

thanks buddy happy I could get one 

[Allspeeds]

Dropped frame at fabricators we measured it and looking at what Clive sent it’s never been cut till now so loosing and inch in length won’t hurt rather than struggling to dress old weld up with be clean cut he’s also removing twin battery box mounts that are pissed and replacing with just one as I think it’s enough so we tidy everything up there 

[Allspeeds]

2nd batch of polishing ready to go tomorrow just need a box 

[Allspeeds]

I was very surprised how primitive the swingarm spindle is on the Harris she was a little tight to get out but once I did get it out I noticed how heavy the pin was!! It’s ends are abit neat up (from previous not me may I add) so il have one re made but also the dust cap/shims for the swingarm were a mess I ordered some stock ET ones with seals built in they fit the JMC are perfect and will keep shit out there also same thickness so that’s good only issue is hole is smaller so il have engineers making pin drill them out 

[clivegto]

That's interesting what's the measurement of the arm tube?