Spirit Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Has anyone done an upgrade with their TL-R radiator(s)? If so, what? Deeper? Better fans? Anything? Quote
TLRS Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Never heared of anyone doing it. If it's clean and works well, it should be fine? Quote
Spirit Posted July 23, 2018 Author Posted July 23, 2018 I'm making a non-fairing bike out of my TL1000R and I want to know if the TL1000S radiator will adequately cool the TL-R? The TL-R radiator shape won't work without a fairing - it's too wide. Quote
Spirit Posted July 23, 2018 Author Posted July 23, 2018 I'm using the bike as a base for a non-faired machine and the TL-R radiator is really unsightly for that purpose. It's shaped for the fairing. I'm not using a fairing. That, and I don't think the TL-R radiator is as good a fit as the curved aluminum ones used on GSX-R's. Quote
Spirit Posted July 24, 2018 Author Posted July 24, 2018 Can someone give me the dimensions of the TL-S radiator please? Quote
Spirit Posted July 24, 2018 Author Posted July 24, 2018 Why? Why does the TL-S (and the SV1000) have an upper radiator and a lower oil cooler and the TL-R have (what looks like) two radiators or an upper radiator acting as a header tank? Quote
Gammaboy Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 TLR radiators are cooling the oil as well via a heat exchanger unit between the cases and the oil filter. The TLR is packaged a bit tighter (I think the swingarms are the same length, but the R is an inch shorter in wheelbase) so there's not enough room for the TL1000S radiator between the front head, front wheel and frame rails, so the upper radiator is shorter (may be slightly narrower too?), and the lower radiator makes up for the lost area - the TLR has more total cooling capacity though given that it was intended to see more track time than the S. Quote
bluedog59 Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 If Suzuki did increase the cooling capability between the S and R versions, I would suggest 2 main reasons. 1. The R was intended to be more viable for racing and thus extra cooling would be needed. 2. Beam frames are known for restricting airflow over and around the engine and also for containing heat in the area. Quote
Spirit Posted July 24, 2018 Author Posted July 24, 2018 Bluedog, I think you might have something there, given the heat-retention problems that the TL-R has. That's one of the reasons why that air compressor rear shock didn't work so good; heat makes for a lousy work environment. I'm planning on a bigger oil cooler than a TL-S and a TL-s radiator with a bigger fan. Quote
markfoggy Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Possibly worth looking at what Cagiva did with the Raptor, same engine and was essentially a naked bike, cause V raptor wasn't exactly faired. Could be a good source of a rad, there will be unused stock out there on the web world. Quote
Spirit Posted August 2, 2018 Author Posted August 2, 2018 Isn't the upper the radiator and the lower just the oil cooler? Quote
Gammaboy Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) Do you really have to start a new thread every time you want to ask a single line question about the TL1000S/R cooling system? Can a Mod combine the 5 TL1000 radiator threads by Spirit into one? Edited August 2, 2018 by Gammaboy 1 Quote
Captain Chaos Posted August 3, 2018 Posted August 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Gammaboy said: Can a Mod combine the 5 TL1000 radiator threads by Spirit into one? I'll give it a try. 1 Quote
TLRS Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Stock TLS radiator is 21x38x3cm. They are specified for running in hot environments, partly clogged by dirt and so on. It's up to you how much cooling capacity you will actually need the way you ride. Less width would certainly make them more crash proof, the stockers tend to get bent when the fairing pushes them in. Nowadays most TLS run a bypass from the thermostat housing to the pump. It aids evenly warming up the cooling system, but after that it might cost flow and cooling across the radiator. Would be interesting to increase bypass capacity and fit and inverse thermostat. The shorter coolant route should 'bypass' the radiator until the thermostat closes the shortcut. That would leave all pump capacity flowing across the radiator without the usual thermostat obstacle.. Quote
Gammaboy Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 On 8/3/2018 at 2:55 PM, Captain Chaos said: I'll give it a try. Thanks! 1 Quote
fatblokeonbandit Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) I fitted a cagiva rad to this many years ago, there was a write up in the TLzone, I haven't got access there anymore but the info might still be there??? it didn't fit at first as it was tooo curved and stopped the forks turning at all, but I straightened it out a lot and it was all good... it was deeper and slightly wider, I never had any over eating problems with it Edited August 6, 2018 by fatblokeonbandit Quote
Captain Chaos Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 8 hours ago, fatblokeonbandit said: over eating problems they are not the radiator's fault, but the rider's 3 Quote
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