Spirit Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Anyone out there have a NOS Lockhart oil cooler adapter to fit my Katana or 1150? It's a modded oil filter cover that comes with the outlets already included? Any help? Quote
Gammaboy Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Why not use the 1150 oil filter cover and replace the blanking bungs each side of the filter housing with AN fittings? I've always wondered why people do the aftermarket setups (especially the JDM style of running lines from the pressure switch around the side of the motor to the cooler) when the Factory setup is so clean and simple. Quote
Spirit Posted June 28, 2018 Author Posted June 28, 2018 Reason being that the Lockhart setup is narrower than using the outlets and the Lockhart has no need to use any outside hoses. It plumbs the oil filter cover. Anybody out there have or have access to a Lockhart NOS oil cooler adapter? Quote
Gammaboy Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Hoses would be almost identical to using the EFE setup: Quote
Spirit Posted July 3, 2018 Author Posted July 3, 2018 Gammaboy: The setup you show is what I',m looking for but as we know that's not the stock 1150 fit. Where's yours from? Quote
Gammaboy Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Found the pic on google. I see no advantage of that over the 1150/EFE style setup - if anything, more of a pain in the arse to change a filter because the lines stop you putting a socket on two of the acorn nuts, and make it hard to get in on another two. Screw in a pair of M14x1.5 to An-6 or AN-8 adaptors and be done with it. Quote
arnout Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 There is a chance I *may* have the Lockhart (Derale?) oil filter adapter plate in question. It was originally installed on the 1100 engine I sourced for my old Kat many years ago. Here's a (tiny) picture I once took of the inside of the plate for further reference. I'm not sure if I still have it or whether I sold it along with the small oil cooler in the kit some time ago. But if you absolutely want it I can try and find it in one of the piles of parts in my "workshop". I agree with Gammaboy though on the benefits of using the oil take offs on either side of the filter cover instead of using the adapter plate, and that is how I changed my oil cooler setup years ago. (I swapped the 90 deg fittings for blanking plugs.) Also I thought these fittings were rather undersized and so perhaps would limit the oil flow to the cooler. Quote
Spirit Posted July 5, 2018 Author Posted July 5, 2018 Arnout, all good thoughts. Where did you get the proper size outlets to plumb the openings? Just a set of right-angle metrics? Quote
E T Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Have a look on e-blag two wheel spare, in stoke . I woud have had it for my ET but the cunts want nesr £20 to post it up hete Quote
arnout Posted July 6, 2018 Posted July 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Spirit said: Arnout, all good thoughts. Where did you get the proper size outlets to plumb the openings? Just a set of right-angle metrics? The blanking plugs you mean? I picked those up from a local DIY store reckoning the threads would be some kind of industrial tapered plumbing type. So no normal metric threads from what I remember, but it's all a very long time ago. I thought I had saved those original 90 deg fittings somewhere, but they're not in the place I expected to find them. Which doesn't bode well for the adapter plate still being in my possession. But I'm not going to look for the plate unless you are really interested as I'd have to search through heavy crates packed with engine parts that are hidden behind other difficult to get to stuff. So I'm actually kinda hoping you'll be able to locate such a plate on Eblag or similar. Quote
Gammaboy Posted July 6, 2018 Posted July 6, 2018 I have no doubt that the lockhart plate will be threaded for NPT fittings. The Suzuki fittings are M14x1.5 with an O-ring or crush washer seal. Quote
Dezza Posted July 6, 2018 Posted July 6, 2018 15 hours ago, E T said: Have a look on e-blag two wheel spare, in stoke . I woud have had it for my ET but the cunts want nesr £20 to post it up hete Yep, they vary between a bit more expensive than reasonable to wanting top dollar for a pile of rust. I only buy stuff from them when all other alternatives have been exhausted Quote
Spirit Posted July 7, 2018 Author Posted July 7, 2018 Arnout, I was talking about the actual fittings going from the oil outlet to the hose leading to the cooler. Same dimensions? I have one Lockhart plate that I will use on my Katana but I want to put a better cooler on my 1150. M14x1.5 still? Quote
Spirit Posted July 7, 2018 Author Posted July 7, 2018 gammaboy, the Lockhart plate has brass fittings standard but they're sized for the plate and not the oil outlets at the front of the motor. Quote
Spirit Posted July 7, 2018 Author Posted July 7, 2018 I was planning on using an Earl's 13 row cooler on both machines and I see that I can get Earl's anodized 14mm to AN6 adapters...I think that will be my route. Thanks to all, it was inspirational. I'll send pictures of both projects when finished. Quote
arnout Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 On 7/7/2018 at 6:57 PM, Spirit said: Arnout, I was talking about the actual fittings going from the oil outlet to the hose leading to the cooler. Same dimensions? I have one Lockhart plate that I will use on my Katana but I want to put a better cooler on my 1150. M14x1.5 still? The original 90 deg fittings on my Lockhart?/Derale (it said on the cooler) adapter plate were the push-on type. Connections on the oil cooler were push-on too. Quote
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