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GSX750ES REVS SUPER HIGH AVTER INSTALLING CARBS
PanzerWomble replied to SATANSAM's topic in Air Cooled
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GSX750ES REVS SUPER HIGH AVTER INSTALLING CARBS
PanzerWomble replied to SATANSAM's topic in Air Cooled
Drowning in petrol ....running rich ......goddam it . If it were me I'd set the pilots back to 40 , and try 2 .25 out ( assuming pilot screws are ok at their ends as well ) as a base point . If it were spitting on 40 could be your air leak running a bit lean . Move the screws in and out till you get the highest sustainable idle then turn it back on the knob . I'd also be tempted to look at 120 mains but TBH they aint the problem for idling . Needles circlip set on middle position ( there are five) again they aint the problem for idling . If the carbs aren't being held open mechanically - trapped cables blah blah then it has to be the fueling....in which case back to standard as the only start point . Your exhaust doesn't look like it needs much more than std jects , and your running the airbox. No idea why Spanish bikes would be jetted different , Benidorm is about as much as sea level as you can get . -
GSX750ES REVS SUPER HIGH AVTER INSTALLING CARBS
PanzerWomble replied to SATANSAM's topic in Air Cooled
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GSX750ES REVS SUPER HIGH AVTER INSTALLING CARBS
PanzerWomble replied to SATANSAM's topic in Air Cooled
It's idling high because there is too much petrol getting in the motor , either on one or all four of the cylinders. This is the problem , it's not air leaks or CDI units or even buggered plugs although all of those will not help with running. You have the correct carbs for the bike ? ID 31310 - 32mm Mikunins. You've cleaned these till they are blue in the face -check ok ? You're 100% certain you have reassembled them correctly ? * Plenty of slack and well lubed throttle and choke cable - check ok ? Cables not getting trapped for any reason ? Tried physically pushing the butterfly mechanism shut whilst it is running ? Pilot screws all same and set - not sure why you have them at 1.5, should be 2.25 but possible someone has over jetted it ? Pilot jet should be 40 main jet 120. Choke mechanisms all retracting nicely into the bodies ? All slides move up and down easily in the carb bodies , not warped or slightly bent needles holding them up slightly ?- If you have an air line you can check the movement of the slides by feeding air into the upper passages to make them move up , and then observe the fall . They should all be the same , which will also be shown on the gauges you are using for synching. Identify if it is one cyl or all of them - Are all four pipes getting the same amount of hot , remove a lead from each cyclinder in turn to see if there is a one that makes a difference. How does it idle under load, if you let out the clutch in first with the brake on is the bike fighting you or does it settled down to a lower RPM easily ? Again one cytl or the bank of 4 ? Finally when balancing the correct sequence , it's middle - balance 2/3 .....left balance 1/2 .....right balance 3/4 . In No 3 is running the best then balancing correclty maybe the issue . *Have you got the proper workshop manual ? If not I can share it with you . -
GSX750ES REVS SUPER HIGH AVTER INSTALLING CARBS
PanzerWomble replied to SATANSAM's topic in Air Cooled
.............And it'll probably still be running too rich......most likely on the pilot circuit ............although it might be a sticky throttle cable in the end I fear . -
I knew someone do a similar trick with some sillydream carbs back in the early 90's . Had to hold back on the giggling when hew came to ask if I could sell him a spare set .
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With those calipers and that method you should be able to go clean round the bend ..... Never tried using bleach , my go to is Jif / ANother white cleaner for first level gunge removal . I might have to give this a go next time .
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GSX750ES REVS SUPER HIGH AVTER INSTALLING CARBS
PanzerWomble replied to SATANSAM's topic in Air Cooled
click on the yellow writing .....the one that says "link " -
GSX750ES REVS SUPER HIGH AVTER INSTALLING CARBS
PanzerWomble replied to SATANSAM's topic in Air Cooled
To state the obvious it's running rich . Assuming throttle cable and choke cable have slack at idle , and the needels sit down properly , I'd concentrate of the pilots screws and jets. Take a look at the attached maybe Link to basic fault find procedure -
GSX750ES REVS SUPER HIGH AVTER INSTALLING CARBS
PanzerWomble replied to SATANSAM's topic in Air Cooled
Huh I might have missed it but when your balancing the carbs and you rev the bike the movement of the guages doesn't tell you anything either ? -
GSX750ES REVS SUPER HIGH AVTER INSTALLING CARBS
PanzerWomble replied to SATANSAM's topic in Air Cooled
All I can add is that I bought a cheapo Chinese 6L U/Sonic cleaning bath six years ago , and having done a lot of old old carbs, I swear by it . Best £100 spent that year . Was a believer in comp air and aerosol cleaners for a long time, but now a convert to the school of "20 minutes in the bath , wash and then off you shoot" . Technically you should be able to get the same result with either method , but for me the U/S bath is garanteed to work , and if not sure , another 20 minutes will deffo cure it . It's an arse on a bank of four having to split them down, but the hope is, you only do it the once . Without wishing to sound like a smug knob, this is what I did my 750ES resto , and it fired straight up, settled to idle with no dramas. Bike had been sat for 6 years before I bought it , and two years after that , so plenty of time to gunge up . If you can run to it , well worth the investment IMHO . -
Has it been a very naughty frame ?
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Unless you're being offered it for £20 ....with those miles and that problem I'd really pass up on it. Don't be conned by the thought it's a "classic" they were kinda dull in the 1980/90's . If you can find a mate with a cheap X7 for sale .............
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CSML look to do pistons if that helps any . https://www.cmsnl.com/products/piston-set_5930145821/
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Did the choke cable change work out ? I've got to ask ...........are you "Simon G" or did you just pick up a bad nickname along the way ....
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Simoniz wheel silver from Halfrauds was very popular and a good match back in the day .