Tony Nitrous
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20 hours ago, Duckndive said:
Most Modern 1000s have in excess of 170bhp the BMW being over 200 reputedly out the box...
Yes the have fantastic handling and brakes but you can still tie yourself in knots just the same as on a 145Bhp dinosaur
Very much this ^
I recently sold a supercharged H2 and have a Gen-3 Busa. I love new bikes but they don’t offer the same as Old Skool bikes. I’m not a Piss and Werthers bore, I like old and new, but you can have a real challenging ride and a heap of fun without the horsepower new bikes have. You work harder but it’s very rewarding.
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168hp on a somewhat optimistic dyno.
Carbon can, air filter, upgraded clutch springs and new Suzuki plates… and 60hp worth of nitrous! Battery in tail with an extension made from 2 car starter motor leads, fuel pump and solenoids in the battery box, foggers in the inlets, micro switch on the carbs so it only triggered on full throttle when armed and fired, switch on the bars that turned the horn button into the nitrous bottle, 2.5lb bottle mounted at the correct angle and within reach.
I went through a LOT of gas in short bursts.
OEM and untouched factory tyres, brakes, suspension etc kept life quite entertaining.
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Not in the UK so not familiar with this.
Whats the basic rules ? 1980’s / 90’s frame and engine ? Pretty much OSS acceptable minus Busa’s and GSX14’s ?
Very cool though. I’ll try and find more on it.
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41 minutes ago, Joseph said:
I've also read about the good gains of a full exhaust on a 1400, but since this is due to be turbocharged that's not a path i need to take.
Busa engine is still too expensive to buy, although indeed performance parts are extremely common. Also its one of those engines that has to be drysumped in my application, and, well...
I’m a huge Busa fan, I have Gen-1, 2 and 3 powered bikes here. It’s my default go-faster answer !
Yeah, my 14 has a full Yoshimura Cyclone, PC111 and some dyno time and is surprisingly healthy. Mildly tuned 14’s do respond well to a good pipe.
I’ll follow your posts with interest. Although the 14 isn’t an ideal powerhouse it’s a good solid lump is reliable and grunty, mine won’t get butchered as it’s so nice to use as it is, but I’d love to find another to tinker with.
Good luck with the project and I look forward to updates.
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7 hours ago, Joseph said:
A bandit engine would have been easier, but the 1400 do give quite healthy results though, and i could do with the extra torque of the big CC.
I know it’d mean sourcing all the externals, but as a comparison I use my 14 back to back with my Bandit.
The Bandit motor is a bit lighter, and easier to find parts and upgrades for, but the 14 has noticeably more grunt and fuels much better. I’ve had more issues and work with my (admittedly 1999) Bandit carbs than my 14’s injection. Normally aspirated the 12 would be easier to find some horsepower with its history, popularity and GSXR family, but even without throwing money at less restrictive cam’s, the 14 responds well to a Yoshi or Akra full system, a Powercommander and some dyno time and the stock injection seems up to the job unless you’re after huge numbers…. but then you’d have a Busa motor anyway.
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Oldskool style seperate carbs with a 1 into 4 cable would be do able and bypass any spacing issues.
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On 9/4/2022 at 7:08 PM, dupersunc said:
Another option is to go to someone like Taylormade. If there is material in the right place,you can get rim machined off and drill holes to mount a spun alloy rims.
A mate here (AU) with some serious skills and a heap of gear knocked out a pair of wheels for one of his bikes. Can’t see what a pair of wider replica in 17” wheels couldn’t be done. It certainly wouldn’t be a cheap option but you’d get exactly what you were after.
My Busa frames been welded back up, I know to a GSXR750 with some serious surgery to take a turbo Busa motor and I’ve seen alloy frames on dragbike get the head stocks removed and refitted.
It wouldn’t be a bloke down the pub with a cheap Halfords mig, but I’m sure wider wheels is quite possible.
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If I was being pedantic I’d say if it was originally a black motor with those cam covers it’s not an ET / X 80’s engine and there are differences as ive found ! …. but Yeah, it’ll fit.
I do understand buying a short motor, more so with cars, you swap auxiliaries over. I wouldn’t want to be paying for a new starter motor if mine was fine, but some sellers get a bit enthusiastic / f@cking tight with what they remove.
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29 minutes ago, Joseph said:
Can't it run like that ? It's missing two opposing teeth but should be held constantly enough by the rest ?
If it was mine I’d really want it right.
However… an unscrupulous seller would put that back together and I very much doubt you’d ever know.
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I’m no expert but from personal experience I’ve found that changing shock lengths and changing dogbone lengths has got me the height I want…
…. but lowering or raising on the bones also seems to change the leverage on the shock and not always in a good way.
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8 hours ago, Joseph said:
Whats the point of faffing around putting a B12 in a GSX ?
I have 2 sets of frames and bodywork for ET’s. I wouldn’t pull the healthy aircooled lump out of my other running ET to do the swap but to break a stock Bandit to create an oil cooled ET is no bad thing IMO.
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14 hours ago, imago said:
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Not going to stop me stripping it of good bits for the ET though.
That was my plan too. Bought a stockish faired 99 1200, turned it naked and stuck some spare Renthals on it to make sure it was OK, the plan was always to use it as an ET donor, I have a 7 and an 11 ET frames and some bodywork spare. Problem is I actually enjoy clowning about on the 12 and I’ve reluctant to break it up now, so now I’m looking for another donor bike!
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4 minutes ago, fatblokeonbandit said:
Yes because we all know a bandit cant be made to turn in, Steer or handle, don't we
I love it !
It doesn’t matter if it’s a Bandit, Busa or GSX14, some folk get so upset when the get passed and left by a bike they see as inferior and unsuitable to their own “proper” Sportsbike.
Good work !
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12 hours ago, Tardis said:
tuning big four strokes but used the carb rubber as a bell mouth .
On a newer Suzuki I have it’s popular to change the length of the inlet trumpets into the airbox. Stock OEM ones are quite long and help give peak power at lower rev’s, aftermarket ones are noticeably shorter, and although not making more power they do help move it higher up the rev range. Bike loses a little (not much) in the lower torque numbers but revs and pulls much harder at the top end.
Im certainly interested in if it works the same with my older bikes. Playing with inlet lengths is on my (long) to-do list.
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It’s something I’m looking into for one of mine. One thing I will do is make sure it’s made to take a reasonably priced and easily available drop in air filter. Something that’s cheap and common to just bin and drop in a new one.
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48 minutes ago, imago said:
Maybe, is that pearl white? I've never seen one in the flesh, and some photos make the colour look more of a cream shade or darker and some a pearl white.
I’ve seen the green / off white ones online but never seen one in the flesh. Not my favourite colour but still cool and interestingly different.
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7 minutes ago, clivegto said:
The dot head breather cover is the thinnest one and the breather exists towards the back.
Is that the same for the GSXR and the GSX-F “Dot” heads ?
Are there any other difference’s between the two apart from the cams?
Im always keeping an eye out for parts for projects or to squirrel away, but I’m seeing more GSX-F dot heads than GSXR ones out here.
EDIT: looks like they’re the same?
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4 hours ago, Isleoman said:
Just for clarification in the US 1982 GS1100e is and EZ. In 1983 the designation was ED. ED had welded crank and black motor. 82 did not have welded cranks and had silver motors. Some will claim some 82s did have welded cranks at end of production but I've never seen or read of one. If you planning on flogging it get an 83.
Same motor as a black engined ‘83 SD Katana ?
If I remember right there were a few differences like the clutch too ?
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1 hour ago, clivegto said:
Which one is taller.
I “think” it’s the B-King but I’ll try and find the measurements. I did have a pic of the two sat side by side on the bench and the difference was very noticeable. The wheels are the same. Forks swap but the Busa is firmer. Shock swaps but the Busa raises the Kings rear a bit. Swingarm doesn’t swap, suspension is offset to allow for under seat exhaust.
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On 8/5/2022 at 11:11 PM, Crazy88 said:
Busa 6 inch?
All Busa rear rims over the last 22 years are 6”.
They are slightly different fitment. I have all 3 sat here. 99-07 Gen-1, 08-20 Gen-2, 21-22 Gen-3.
The 1340 B-King and Gen-2 use exactly the same rear wheel but a different cush drive hub. One is taller than the other.
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It depends on the bikes geometry and set up, but my de-fault go to pick Is normally a 180/55 on a 5.5” and a 190/55 on a 6”.
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3 hours ago, Crazy88 said:
What size tyre do you have in the 6 inch rim?, I like the idea of a 200 section if at all possible.
I have 4 bikes with 6” rears. One had a 200/50 from the factory, the others had 190/50. All now run 190/55’s. Only a fraction taller than a 200/50 which is taller than a 190/50 but it works well. I’m a big fan of the S22’s in a 190/55 on 6” rims. The shape and profile means all mine tip in real well, except one that I needed to raise the rear a fraction to do it.
Bikes like the B-King used the Gen-2 Busa rear wheel, the Busa got a 190/50 and the King got a 200/50 on the same rim. It’s very common for owners of both to change to a more sporty 190/55.
I know a “200” should look like a proper big boys tyre but in reality it’s not that noticeable. I notice the improved handling more than the slightly smaller size look.
Bandit 150rwbhp Enough?
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My neighbour tutors. We’ve talked about going for a ride.
Considering he’s beat Rossi / Biaggi etc on a good day and won a few MotoGP’s I guess he’d be OK for a few tips. God knows what he’d make of me on one of my bike though!