Tony Nitrous
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7 hours ago, Fazz711 said:
Hi welcome to OSS.
As said bandit or inazuma will be closest.
May be worth trying australia Eblag as they had the bike as official import
Did they ? That’s interesting.
I’ve only seen Jap home market / Grey imports. Never seen one in a Suzuki dealership.The GS1200SS and Inazuma 12 are both on my wish list.
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My first iL4 Suzuki.
I wouldn’t rule out another one day but having already owned one and put serious mileage in on it there was certainly room for improvement, and they are a long way off being a Classic.
Certainly a modded upgraded version.
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3 hours ago, Upshotknothole said:
Same, I’ve had the brake on an LSL bar for about the same amount of time and it works fine. Keep telling myself I’m going to swap it out for a Brembo RC at some point, but I kinda like the look of the coffin reservoir on the bike.
Same. I put it on my “to do” list many years ago, but never needed to…
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9 hours ago, Upshotknothole said:
First gen busa masters are a pretty flush coffin style as well, but they’re designed for bars with a bit of drop to them.
I’ve run a pair on Renthals for about 15 years, on flat bars the angle looks very odd and wrong. Surprisingly dispite not even being able to take the tops off without losing fluid, they have worked OK. I was expecting there to be dramas but never had any. They do look strange though!
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The only one I’ve used was weighted and set up to come in high enough in the revs that day to day around town it’s wasn’t noticeable. Completely useable as normal and locked up when used in anger / rev’s up. From my brief experience they are adjustable by weighting the arms?
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Personally I’d probably go sleeve if you don’t think it’s a long term thing.
I have seen a de-bored rear mount with slim top hat spacers fitted from the outside of the mount but it’s not really ideal although it seemed to work.
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They respond really well to a full Yoshi Cyclone or Akra full system, PAIR blanks and a dyno mapped PC3 or 5. Few folk bother with an ECU flash as unlike modern bikes the 14 has very few things to remap other than fueling, plus only the later bikes have a “flash” ECU option listed. Next step is normally cams. After that you’re into serious stuff and serious $$’s.
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27 minutes ago, Gixer1460 said:
Listening to that . . . . . . . . what a mistake ! As stock, they came with small TB's cos the inlets were small also - all for torque not HP! Unless you hog out the inlets, larger valves, putting FCR41's is a exercise in futility!
There was a bit of a monster 14 running as a drag bike a while back. I’m not sure if it ran injectors or carbs, but there was a lot of work put into the head, inlets etc to wake it up.
I’ve seen two bikes here with 1620 conversions but you need a pile of money and a pile of parts. I like mine but it has its limits in comparison with many other models.
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External oil lines with a feed from the bottom end are quite different from “cam to cam” (which they aren’t) links just across the head.
This or similar was on the old OSS.
https://www.customfighters.com/threads/uk-lees-how-to-make-bandit-gsxr-cam-links.42930/
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On 4/27/2022 at 2:01 AM, TonyGee said:
It would be interesting to see a set of carbs on a GSX1400 Joseph, and how it performs
Aren’t the throttle body’s and inlets in the head relatively small (for a 1402cc motor) part of the engines design for lowdown grunt. I know they suffer from being oddly spaced in comparison to other models. The 14 being a stand alone engine, even wider across the cases.
Obviously still do-able but not a quick swap over. I did look into it briefly for mine. I’d be interested if anyone does it.
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Is this really a thing ?
I ran a big bore Kat for many years in the UK, and yeah, it’s was a warm motor in summer but never a drama.
I have an 1100ET here now and even in Aussie summers in the city or at the drags I’ve never found it a problem, temps you’ll never see in the UK.
I Not trying to be a smart arse, genuinely interested. I’m surprised an 1135 needs it unless it’s a bit of a monster motor.
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On 7/10/2022 at 7:48 PM, Chay said:
Must have been a common upgrade back in the day
I’m not sure it ever was.
I remember folk going to wire wheels / spoked rims as it gave you the option for any choice of 16, 17, 18” rims in a wide range of widths. Even the Kats with their futuristic styling were upgraded with wire wheels.
After that there was swapping to GSXR stuff, early 6 spokes or then 3 spokes.
Im not sure EF into ET’s was ever really common. Sure you’d get a 17” but it’s still pretty slim and wasn’t much of an upgrade even back in the day.
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If you want to stick to 80’s Suzuki stuff like the early GSXR11 had 6 spokes like an 1135E but in 18” with a wider rear. I run that size (but different) rims on my 1100ET
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Considered wire wheels ?
Huge range on size options and can look OK.
1135 wheels aren’t exactly an upgrade. 16” front and skinny 17 rear. I don’t remember anyone doing it.
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1 hour ago, coombehouse said:
It all depends on the price. They can be had for not a lot of money if you are not in a rush. I just picked one up on Eblag for £210 with history & around 40k miles. The oil return pipes were leaking due to corrosion which is why the bike was scrapped. I bought one last year for £135 with unknown history on Eblag again & after stripping it, it seems very clean inside with no bore wear but a little crank scoring. A replacement perfect crank was £25 delivered!!!
I’m very envious. I’m not seeing those prices or availability here in Qld, AU.
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Still worth having IF the price is right. Lots of folk would buy any oilcooled lump at the right price, just for parts, or a dummy mock up lump, or to rebuild. Hell, I’d buy one with a rod through the cases at the right price! LOL, I’m guessing it wasn’t THAT cheap then ?
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Apart from my earlier mentioned cam chains then….
My early one went through a LOT of nitrous and spent a lot of time at the strip, it was eventually returned to near stock and showed no ill effects. I have one sat here now that’s similar mileage to yours (no recorded history with it) and the motors fine.
There’s nothing that springs to mind as “high risk” area. They are pretty sturdy and a generally tough lump from my experience that can suffer from normal wear or neglect but nothing really Bandit specific.
As others have said it’s nice to be able to run them through the gears to test and it’s the perfect time for cams, cam chains, Dot heads, clutches etc whilst it’s in bits but for me there’s no real Red Flag areas for that engine.
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I’ve had a couple that needed cam chains up around that mileage. I’ve had other bikes that went well beyond it without one but 2 of my 12’s had new cam chains. Tensioners seemed OK. Not sure why. Maybe I was just unlucky.
Some folk like them but I’m not a huge fan of the diaphragm clutches so a coil spring swap would be on my list but that’s just personal taste.
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Might not be relevant to yours, but I bought a big bore ET with mish mash of bits and a lots of mods and mileage on it….
I had an in-line filter, it was plenty big enough, located properly, checked and double checked but the bike was never at its best. I binned it, and brought a brand new replacement tap and filter that improved it.
The ET also came with a few airbox lids. Running the stock filter it seemed better with the lid that had several large holes in it.
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48 minutes ago, Serafumi said:
Morning all . Has anyone welded on a stock subframe back onto on a slingshot frame ,dad cut the original off in the 90s , but as I want to keep the original reg number for frame , I got a second hand frame with lock stop damage, but subframe is good . I planned to cut it off and have it welded onto dad’s original frame . If it’s a bad idea please give me other options. I want to run stock style rear unit
Not personally, but I’ve snapped a subframe lug off an alloy frame and had it welded back on again. After many years of abuse it’s still solid. I’d be surprised if a good welder couldn’t do it.
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On 6/29/2022 at 2:04 PM, rodneya said:
The Kat antidive units seem to be worth quite a bit in Australia. But then stock Kats sell for crazy money over there.
This ^
I’ve been watching spares / parts for quite a while and whilst big Suzuki IL4 stuff has always had some value it’s certainly a bit salty now. Demand and prices climbed and held strong. I’ve looked for front ends but they are never cheap or local anymore. -
On 1/23/2022 at 7:03 AM, Swiss Toni said:
Well … what you waiting for!
New shed go’s up next month, house after that, then I’m back into it. Bikes, tools, parts all come out of storage units. Untill then I’m just collecting and hoarding.
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My Suzuki GS1200ss ( and TL1000S ).
in Oil Cooled
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I’ve seen a few over the years but all Grey imports. AU used to get quite a few used Jap vehicles. I’ve seen a lot more Skylines here than the UK. When I worked at the Port it was common to see a row of cars and vans coming in.
On the whole AU is a lot closer to the UK in what official imports it gets, with the exception of not following Euro-4 / 5 so we still get stuff the UK drops.
I do like the GS1200 and I’d love to find one within my budget. Same with the “looks like a Zephyr” Inazuma 1200. Both my style of bikes and based on mechanicals I’m a fan of.