Gammaboy
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3 minutes ago, Captain Chaos said:
BMW K100 had efi in 1984
It was analogue L-Jetronic with a flap type afm though.
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15 hours ago, Gixer1460 said:
All FI before that was mechanical.
You're ignoring the analogue EFI systems like Bosch L-Jetronic and KE-Jetronic of the 80s. Rather than using lookup tables of stored values like digital EFI they used analogue electronics to meter fuel. I'm not sure what the Kawas used, but injected Ducatis and Bimotas were digital well before TLs. Ducati 851 and Bimota YB4EI were injected in 1987, both Weber Marelli digital systems.
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16 hours ago, Matt-Man said:
The TL was the first bike to receive Digital Fuel Injection I read yesterday!
Yeah, nah. Maybe first Suzuki.
Maybe first with the main throttle and the ecu controlled throttle?
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From memory, no.
You could look at adapting a K series GSXR exhaust, there's some tweaking of the header spacing and some bending required, can't remember the details, was years ago I was looking at it.
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Apart from the difference in height due to the taller barrels, from memory the sump configuration is different, so yes, you could fit a 1100 exhaust but you'd have to fit a 1100 sump (and oil pickup I think), and the it would hang low because of the shorter barrels.
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I'd be inclined to use VFR400 twin rads to make it narrower... (I think it's the 400 rads. A lot of VFR800 guys are using them on strertfightered bikes as an alternative to a TLS or SV rad)
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On 1/4/2020 at 1:01 PM, dupersunc said:
Actually it's a for an SB8, need my eyes checked
It'd work with SB6R linkages I believe.
So, I built a replica of the factory packing crate stand for it, largely stuck it back together, and now its sitting in a mate's man cave waiting for me to return to Australia...
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Yeah, the fuckery to fit FCRs is a hard no. This guy fitted TMRs to a SB7 by just using a wedge spacer under the carb rubbers - I suspect with the taller 1100 in there they'd go straight on.
http://kenworks77.sakura.ne.jp/wp01/sb7-rest/
From looking at other bikes where TMRs were used to replace BT-SS mikunis, the TMRs are basically a drop in swap, same cables in almost the same spot, same lengths and diameters so all the rubbers and airboxes work...
That FCR fed SB6 is also using a SRAD tap - which works fine if you don't have to try and make the fuel lines work with the stock airbox...
Anyway, my timelines have relaxed a little with my move, so in theory I'd be able to get the SB6 complianced and registered before going, but that would mean either a brand new set of tyres sitting for 18 months, or bringing the bike to Germany and using it a handfull of times over there...
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So, the Corse Titanium exhaust old mate thought he had hanging in another storage unit unfortunately turned out to be for a SB8... so I really should have bought the TMRs instead of hanging onto the money for an exhaust that didn't exist... oh well.
Given the new accelerated timeline for my travels, this thing isn't coming with me, and i need to screw it and the Mito together enough for them to go into storage without me losing any bits..
Sigh.
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14 hours ago, Gixer1460 said:
I suspect Bimota put a bit more design / engineering into their builds than 'a talented guy in his shed' (that is a 'tongue in the cheek' remark for all you literals!)
The SB6 came with a slabby engine - will it take a slinger? If it does, then the head fixing must be flexible which would then imply its not a 'structural' fixing. And this would leave the whole engine supported via the two rear mounts - that I really wouldn't like.
This is a personal opinion and don't care if others do it this or that way - for all I know, there could be shed load of plate between the frame rails as bracing negating a load bearing engine that was designed to be in a cradle frame!
SB6 used WC motors, same frame on the SB7 with a 750. They used a plate that hangs off the sides of the head and picks up the mounting points in the frame so they could use a different mounting plate for the shorter 750. Basic overall design of the WC isn't that far removed from the oil boilers. You've also got to remember that these motors still have a lot of meat in them, they're not pared to the bone like modern motors (which are incidentally more than capable of being used as a stressed member). It's just not a problem.
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Progress. Horrible horrible progress!
Fuel tap finally sorted out:
Top half is custom, internals are SRAD, with a Pingel screen (thanks to @KATANAMANGLER- I owe you a beer or two!)
And Plumbed in (well, except for the vac line - I'll use another bit of vac hose to manually prime the carbs, then hook it up.
Spent a little time replacing the main breather hose to the carbs, fucking around with wiring for the tail lights, battery mounting foam and installing the batteries, so we're at a point where I can chuck fuel in it and light it up...
Oh yeah, and a crappy shot of the carbon inside the seat. Need to sort some new heat shielding for it.
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On 9/17/2019 at 12:54 PM, GSX1100dreamn said:
These are identified by the side adjuster for idle speed, they are shorter than the 1100 34mmand I had to cut flush the bottom drain tube so the airbox could sit forward.
Cheers Andrew.
Watercooled 750/1100 Carb rubbers would have probably left the airbox in the right place - they're about 10-15mm longer from the looks of things.
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35 minutes ago, spiderhaed said:
Thinking mybe i'll 916 rear end but ZXR was how it was featured so might stay true to that ? .
Tail in the magazine article is 94-97 TZ250.
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On 9/16/2019 at 5:45 PM, Gixer1460 said:
With a hump on the starter cover I suspect a GSXR11 (but which one ?) or Blandit.
Re : The Head / frame mounts - not sure I like them due to using a non stressed member engine in a stressed member situation ie. it's not designed to resist those loads ............ it probably will for the low mileage the bike is likely to travel - doesn't make it right though + you are buggered trying to fit anything else in there - 750 (nah) 1052 or 1127 (different ht.) stroke'd motor (no chance!) - all subject to how the head fixings work - solid fix or rubber grommets LOL!
Works fine on Bimota SB6s.
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On 9/14/2019 at 6:35 AM, Heatz said:
problem i have is the float bowl gaskets are not holding down the float assembly/float needle seat properly so fuel flow dos'nt stop and dumps fuel into the oil
The Litetek kit will sort that.
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Shocks back in. Never had a bike that's so quick to get the shock in and out of (well, except the Kat) - with the seat unit already off, it's lift the tank off, drop the carbs out of their rubbers and move to one side, belt the shock in, pull the footpeg hanger to run the reservoir line, and bolt it all back together. 15 minutes tops.
Aaaand I've just recieved a text message that the seat unit is ready to pick up!
And in other news, the new job is finally happening, so there's a solid chance that I'll be screwing everything back together and leaving it on a stand in a mate's mancave for 12-18 months...
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Just picked up the shock - couple of days late, but came in under the quote by 20% so can't complain. Have spent some time sorting some electrickery - just have to glue the headlights back together and that part of it should be sorted... *might* get it started this weekend.
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Lever cross references to everything listed here:
http://www.mickhone.com.au/part/suzuki/5762138A02#content
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On 7/15/2019 at 2:20 AM, sev said:
a muzzy rad fan... now I am officially impressed
Aaaaand it's the wrong one. It's only ~185mm diameter, GSXR1100 fan is 205. fucks sake.
Anyway, I got some time to work on the seat unit on monday - basically got the black paint/overspray/polyester resin sanded/ground back to bare glass/epoxy (which was about 3 1/2 hours work) and said fuckit, and dropped it off to the guy I'd spoken to about doing the carbon for me previously. With new job imminent, it's going to be touch and go in terms of me having enough time to get the bike back together before I go, so figured that was something I could comfortably sub out and save a bunch of time. I guess at least with having done the prep work, it's cut back significantly on the labour I'll be paying, that and having sold some more parts means it's eating into my slush fund less.
Speaking of parts, I picked up the fuel tap upper that I'd gotten a mate to do the milling on last night - of course, I've forgotten to take photos. Will snap some this evening. This means I'm getting close to being able to light the thing up!
Should have the shock back tomorrow or friday, and the seat unit next week...
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Still haven't had a chance to sort the glass work, but pulled the rear shock out last night so I can take it for a fresh bumpstop and seals - 8,000km (5,000miles) in ~24 years means it's in very nice nick, but the rubber bits will be unhappy. Super easy job to get it out - spent more time looking for a dropped 6mm washer than pulling it out of the bike.
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12 hours ago, yantosh said:
TL motor, multistrada frame, hypermotard tank, subframe, seat, forks, gsxr1000 wheels.....
That sounds awesome.
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On 8/16/2019 at 7:03 PM, KATANAMANGLER said:
Give your winged hammer a wee rub before each run for luck.
Is that a euphemism?
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2 hours ago, banoffee said:
Brown seat? Fuck. Off.
Nailed it.
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in the interest of making things happen faster, I got a guy quote on getting some carbon laid up as reinforcement... can't justify the cost, so looks like I'm doing it myself...
If it was going to be the lower end of the guy's quote, I'd just get him to sort it.
TL1000 injection?
in Water Cooled, V-Twins, Singles and 2-strokes
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They definitely had a flapper AFM like any other L-Jet. The K75/K100 guys suffer the same issues as the 80s euro car guys with them.
http://www.kforum-tech.com/electrical/EFI/bike-wont-start-EN.htm