gsxwill Posted March 3, 2024 Posted March 3, 2024 17 hours ago, Bubba1135 said: https://tractechmotorsports.ca/products/gs1150-anti-dive-by-pass-plates Nice bit of kit @Bubba1135 1 Quote
Supa Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Fellas remove or blank off, its not going to change one bit to your handling. WSBk dude may have been taken out of context as the 20gms is not reciprocating Wt. Quote
Gixer1460 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 59 minutes ago, Supa said: Fellas remove or blank off, its not going to change one bit to your handling. WSBk dude may have been taken out of context as the 20gms is not reciprocating Wt. How did you get to 'reciprocating weight'? All the discussions were referring to Sprung and unsprung weight - quite different! Quote
Supa Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Your right but for 20gms to effect anything it could only be through recipricating Wt. 20gms would only be influential then. Otherwise is not really an issue. Quote
Supa Posted January 12 Posted January 12 As you say sprung /unsprung Wt or static wt is not something that really is going to make a difference at 20 grams. Its not relevant. only relevant if reciprocating. Thats the point I was adding. maybe useless info hey? Quote
PeterKaa Posted January 12 Posted January 12 I may be a bit thick, but if I install the emulators the anti-dive is disabled and I can live happily ever after? The hole added in the damper tube bypasses the anti-dive - or whats the reason? 2 hours ago, Supa said: As you say sprung /unsprung Wt or static wt is not something that really is going to make a difference at 20 grams. Its not relevant. only relevant if reciprocating. Thats the point I was adding. maybe useless info hey? Agree. There is a larger weight delta between a new v used tire, or new v used brake pads :-) 1 Quote
Bubba1135 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 I only fitted them as the bloody things were pissing oil all over the place. Didn't think it would make much difference when hauling 18stone about Quote
Supa Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Yes Bubba its been a pointless discussion as far as Wt saving or handling goes. Do you feel any faster or slower??? Im gunna guess NO DIFFERENCE 2 Quote
R1guy Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 3/2/2024 at 6:58 AM, Bubba1135 said: https://tractechmotorsports.ca/products/gs1150-anti-dive-by-pass-plates Looks like the website is down Quote
Supa Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Fellas, the thing we've missed here with the block off plates is that they do not add 20gramms of weight each leg of your bike!!! They actually save you weight by replacing the anti dive unit which weighs a lot more plus the extra brake line and bkt and for the real guns of wt saving the fluid in the lines aswell. . Im not being facetious , but go for it . I think making our bikes look special and trick is great . Just remember we are "OLD skool Suzuki" yep 240 kg Kats 200 kg GSXRs. Vs the last 10yrs of NEW skool suzuki and bikes in general. But keep chasing what you want because im still going to enjoy seeing the creations and appreciating the time effort and love we all put into or rides. PS im making my own block off plates and changing the gallery in the plate to play with the anti dive effect for fun Not Wt saving or handling. Yep keep thinking and playing boys. We ALL have our own dreams. You just gotta love riding bikes. Nothing better. All the best Supa Quote
Supa Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Last note. I forgot to say Im 70kg, Wt savings not my goal. I think im cheating by a lot of kilos for some of us. ( Id do a smiley face but im computer illiterate) Quote
TonyGee Posted January 14 Posted January 14 whats all this weight saving guff !!!!!!!! feck when i make a bracket or sumat i make it thicker and stronger and don't even think about its weight ???? we are not riding modern sports bikes here 4 Quote
eddiegsx Posted January 14 Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, TonyGee said: whats all this weight saving guff !!!!!!!! feck when i make a bracket or sumat i make it thicker and stronger and don't even think about its weight ???? we are not riding modern sports bikes here Speak for yourself Tony, I was trying to move my EFE around the garage at the weekend, gone were the days of my youth when I Used to chuck my 1100ET around like it was a moped! Quote
TonyGee Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, eddiegsx said: Speak for yourself Tony, I was trying to move my EFE around the garage at the weekend, gone were the days of my youth when I Used to chuck my 1100ET around like it was a moped! yeah my ET is a big lump to move around and get on and off my bench the old Zed is ever so slightly lighter Quote
R1guy Posted January 16 Posted January 16 On 1/13/2025 at 5:37 PM, R1guy said: Looks like the website is down I’ll have to make some Quote
Suzukian Posted January 17 Posted January 17 The anti-dive units on my bike work excellently. Haven ridden the same bikes with them blocked off, I preferred the bike stock. In New England, the backgrounds demand a lot of hard braking, and not having the bike dive like my other ones just feels better to me. As I stated, my units work, if they didn't, and I could not rebuild them, then making a block of plate with a cut out for fork oil transfer would be easy enough to do, and the block off plates would weigh far less the the anti-dive units., so weight is not a consideration that really matters, as you are reducing the unsprung weight. I guess one could always drill and tape the holes, and run lines between the holes ? IMHO Quote
Supa Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Wt saving was in referrence to some one saying adding 20grms (the Wt of the plates!!!!!) at this area could effect handling. I struggled with this kind of thinking. I mentioned static and reciprocating Wt and the difference but I think some one struggled with that too? theyre totally different effects on handling. Example, 20gram out of balance on the front wheel ,bad news, reciprocating. Static 20 grms on forks, well have a wee wee and your whole bike with you on it is now lighter, hahaha. Both totally unrelated. In my opinion only. But if your just after a Wt saving number for the sake of a number, then go crazy and chase 20grams. Quote
Captain Chaos Posted March 16 Posted March 16 8 hours ago, Supa said: I mentioned static and reciprocating Wt and the difference you mentioned it wrong. Weight on the front fork is reciprocating. Weight on the wheel is rotating (and also reciprocating but the rotating bit is of much bigger influence). 1 Quote
Supa Posted March 16 Posted March 16 Interesting, If it stays still its usually referred to as STATIC Reciprocating means it moves, yes frnt wheel but the plates are stationary so in my dictionary thats static. But hey who cares. Thanks for your view Supa Quote
Gixer1460 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 11 hours ago, Supa said: Interesting, If it stays still its usually referred to as STATIC Reciprocating means it moves, yes frnt wheel but the plates are stationary so in my dictionary thats static. Static as they are fixed to something but not fixed in 'space' as the fork leg moves with the wheel due to road imperfections. I thought this was primarily a sprung / unsprung weight question and removing those clunky old valve bodies should definately affect the way the wheel / lower leg moves! At the end of the day, I would defy anyone to be able to tell the actual difference in handling or suspension reaction if I placed / or removed 20 or 30 grams somewhere on a bikes suspension in a 'before and after' type test! Maybe a MotoGP level rider might but anyone else Nah! Quote
Supa Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Totally agree. One of the boys in pursuit of wt reduction thought this to be a issue adding 20grms, think he forgot about ALL the wt saving ,if relevant" of the anti dive unit brake lines etc. The plates were still a couple hundred grms lighter overall. say what now!? i think when riding a street bike on the street its rather questionable on wt saving. BUT i love the pursuit of the end result. Reality just add HP ,its cheaper too. Quote
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