Jocalopse

2 years ago I bought a GSXR 1100 engine with the intent of rebuilding it as a spare for my B12. Seller thought it was stock. Yesterday was going to make some PAIR block off plates for the Bandit, went out to measure the ports on the GSXR engine and it doesn't have any, they're molded into the block, but not all the way through. That's odd I says to myself. Check the displacement volume on the block and it says 1270cc......Well well well. Suzuki didn't make any 1270cc oil boilers, so I'm assuming this is a big block. Anybody know who made 1270 blocks? What else should I look for, obviously it isn't a stock engine. What else could I check to see how modified this engine is? PS I know GSXR110 and B12 engines aren't exactly the same, heads and clutch I think, but it'll fit into the B12 frame and plug into the CDI and run, that's why I bought it. Function oil boilers are rare here in eastern Canada.

real wheel bearings.....working on them right now, heat gun died, time for the propane torch

I'll check them but it sounds inboard

I've heard a clunk while taking off, at first I though it was shock linkages, but then noticed it was repetitive. Thought maybe the drive sprocket nut had worked off, but not that. can't find anything out of the norm in the drive live. I'm dreading that it's internal. Only happens from a stop though, not deceleration or at constant speed, or roll on either for that matter. How loud it is depends on how much load the bike is under, flat ground, quiet clunk, uphill loud clunk, but it's only when starting out, it has a frequency that sound like it's drive related. can anyone help? Feels like it;s down by my right foot, almost like chain lash hitting the inside of the frame or something, but chain is fine

they knew the exact dimensions of the bobbins need for the Bandit and the ones they make are smaller by two mm, they also suggested getting the rotors skimmed down because apparently warring is very uncommon what usually happens is the disc its mounted improperly and it cause a thin spot to wear on the dice which causes the pulsating. I could ge them skimmed down at work if I needed too, have to look into it. may also look into getting some bobbins made.

heard back from them, they don't make bobbins to fit '05 Bandits and have no plans to, not enough demand they say. Any body got a set of take off stock bandit rotors?

well I'm in Canada, but it's a 2005 bandit 1200

thank you

Ok, bare with me, I know it's a blandit and I expect I'll get flack for it, but I do have a '82 GSX 1100 and an '89 GSXR1100 as well, but this'uns about the Blandit. The B12 I bought came with a cool feature, pulsing front brakes. I know it's a warped rotor, I also know that new ones cost over $300, a piece. I've already tried oil boiler GSXR rotors and the offset is different enough that they won't work. Now, I remember seeing on the old site that someone had some grommets made up and swapped the rotor part itself and used the old carrier, all held together with the grommets and some snap rings. Is this a kit that is available, and if so where would one order such a thing. I imagine it's cheaper that $600 for new rotors.

the only bikes I've ever heard of having something like this are the top flight race reps, they've all got the anti-wheeleing, traction control, ABS all that jazz. Don't think that kind of tech was around back in aught five when the last of the B12s came out, sounds to me like someone has been feeding poor old Venom a load of crap. There's nothing mentioned in the Suzuki shop manual I have at home

is it that simple?

Does anyone know if you can send off to Suzuki for a new set of keys. The new to me B12 only has one, and it's not in great shape, I;d like to keep the ignition, fuel cap and seat lock all a one key affair rather the having two keys rattling around. I once heard that a dealer could send in for keys to match your VIN, wondering if that was correct?

I wonder if there is a difference between North America and England because I pick up an 89 that has USD forks as well, not in the shape this is, but still an '89.... by the way, Hi George, this is Jordan

excellent, thank you very much gentlemen, now to figure out a front end swap.

outside I guess, just need to know if I can bolt the GSXR engine into the B12 frame using all the stock mounts and spacers, and mate it up to the stock inake and exhaust with no major surgery.

inside or outside what?

well, well, well.......it's almost like I asked which oil or tires are best for my new to me Bandit, it's brought everyone out of the woodwork. Anyhow, the Bandit is still at the dealership I'm buying it from and there it will stay until the weather improves, I am in Canada after all. So it is a last generation oil cooled GSXR1100, whatever was sold here in Canada and a 2005 Bandit. The reason I was asking is the B12 has 60,000km on it. I had planned on maybe rebuilding the GSXR engine, then swapping them, giving me a refreshed engine in the B12. I can't put the GSXR on the road, as someone filed off the VIN on the headstock, we all know what that means. Anyway it's complete, but in rough shape anyway. The tentative plan, I don't want to be without a commuter as the XR650 is hell on the highway, is rebuild the engine for eventual swap, and maybe swap the front end as well, maybe shock if possible and worthwhile. Was really just enquiring as to the relative similarity. Pretty sure they have the same engine mounts.

my mistake, it's the last gen oil boiler 1100 before they went water cooled and an oil cooled B12

I've got a pre '93 1157 GSXR and a '05 B12, which also says 1157, are these the same engines with the only difference being cams or is there more to it than that?

I've got a bandit wheel in a bandit swing arm in a ET frame with a GSXR750 carrier and with a 530 chain I have a couple mm of tire clearance and lots of frame clearance.

Messaged you, I want some

I was hoping to get away with no welding, I had seen the plates on the old site, but didn't save them. Idealy I'd just hand over the specs to a shop and have them cut them out, then bolt it all up. damn near done, just have to fiddle with the chain run next and wiring. This engine sounds good, just need to do the transplant.

anyone have them in a size that's legible? when I enlarged it the numbers weren't clear enough to make out

Gentlemen. I am attempting to build a special, it isn't easy here in far Eastern Canada, away from all the bright lights and specialists. So far it's been a stilted project, I'd throw money at it when I could afford it, it's been a two year project so far. What I currently have is a GSX1100ET frame with a B12 swing arm, resprung GSXR750 front end, and now I've bought an 1127 oil boiler engine for it. Apparently it has a big bore kit, but until I can track down the builder I won't believe it. What I need is engine mounting plates for an 1127CC engine into an ET frame, can anyone help?