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The GS750ES triple trees with spindle came in. It even had the tapered steering head bearings, nut, washer, tightening nut on it. It was complete. The steering stem is welded on, but it's s very light bead. I'll be able to mount it on my lathe and remove the weld right up to where it's no longer welded. I have to wait till the GS1150 front end comes in to determine which route I'm going to take. I do have a spare ZZR1200 front end, and that will get the stem if the GS1150 front end doesn't cut it. I'm not in a hurry. II may machine a pair of cartridge emulators for the GS11150 front end to help it along. Back in the day the set up was to put the GS1150 swing arm and front end to get a wider front tire. Since I am going for a 600SRAD tire set up, I have to wait till the parts come in and then decide.

I hear you. I have that front end already and it's in excellent condition. Thanks for the offer though, that's extremely generous, and you and I both know that isn't too common these days, not in the U.S. anyways! Those triple trees alone are worth something, they fit so many bikes.

A bit too rough. I'd have to have the forks replaced with all those rust pitting, I could never hold a seal. Thanks for the offer. I already have the front end. I'm all set. :)

Next step for me is a 17" inch rim with discs to stick in the 1150 front end I have. Some at reasonable prices on ebfag. Thanks for the offer.

I have a milling Machine, 9" SouthBend Lathe with the Milling attachment, it is a back gear lathe, so it can cut threads. Drill press. Rotary tables. Indexing heads, compound table, shitloads of end mills and drills, taps, etc.. I also have a Miller Econotig Tig welder, and a square wave Mig welder I purchased two years ago. I have virtually all the attachments and accessories for these machines, including collets, etc. I've been doing CAD for around 15 years, I use Rhino3D as it is really good at Non-uniform rational basis spline (NURBS) type modeling. I have depth gauges, Micrometers, I can measure from center to center and then build a computer model and print out a pattern on 110 lb. card stock, which is strong enough to put bolts through and see if there is a proper fit. I can also take photos, import them, and with a known value, like putting a penny next to the part, use parametric scaling so all work is in 1 to 1 scale. As I stated before, I am severely disabled, 5 ruptured, and 5 fused discs. I can stand in front of a machine for maybe 45 minutes before the pain becomes unbearable. This is why I am taking a minimalist approach. It's just the reality that I can ride a motorcycle easier than I can go to the end of my property to check the mail. It's easier for me to ride a motorcycle than to drive a car. I have a FM transmitter inserted in me that goes down my Spinal Cord, to try and control the pain. I'm not a dick, I'm just really fucked up. I don't have any friends anymore that share this passion and could work with. Many of my friends have died from drugs, cancer, drugs, drugs, drinking. It's where I'm at. I ask for no sympathy. I plan to make a trike, so having an extra front end around won't be a problem. I have to take care of my house first, before I can come play. I have bartered for most of the tooling I have, as I had an electronic repair shop for 10 years, and bartered my Lathe for a 32" Sony Trinitron XBR. That was an expensive T.V. at the time, worth nothing now. A lot of bartering goes on in the U.S.. Much better to keep it off the books. I've paid enough taxes. You can have all the tools in the world, but when your Spinal Cord says no, it all becomes very frustrating, to say the least. It is what it is.

You hit that nail on the head, American is so different from one region of the country to another, Google:Translate would have to have you put in your Zip Code first, to determine where you live in the U.S.. I searched high and low for much later forks, I'm on another Suzuki forum, but my Lord, the prices people are asking for these parts just isn't worth it. Even on Ebag the difference between GSX and GS is treated as the same bike. It would be easy to buy the wrong parts. The expression "Pulling Teeth" has a much lighter connotation here than it may in the U.K.. It took a lot of posts to find out that the ZZR1200 front end could work. I have parts coming in for both. As far as procrastination, a Tornado hit my house and I am almost finished with the roof. I have to replace the cylinder heads on my Motor home (Caravan) engine, it's a Chevy 454 worth about $7500 bucks this spring, and finish my 10' x 12" French door shed. I just have a lot of stuff to do. I don't procrastinate, I just don't have time. I also have 5 ruptured discs, a neck made out of Titanium, as is my lower spine, and 5 fused discs. All from an industrial accident. I had to stop flying, stop sailing (I sailed a 10 meter boat by myself often at one time) but that is behind me. I haven't been critical of the information, I've just asked for more specifics. Stating the model of a bike which has had 3 different front ends is not helpful. Appreciated, but not helpful. The written word does not convey intent. If you feel offended by what I post, please take it as a cultural difference. I don't criticize people. I never intend to insult anybody. I just wanted a bigger front tire for the a bike I own and enjoy very much. A minor upgrade. I've taken the advice from members, I ordered a spare lower triple tree for the GS750ES so I press out the steering stem, to possible to on the GS750, and for $90 bucks, I can put a complete front end, and do a modification that was done often to that bike back when it came out. I can machine out a set of cartridge emulators if need be. TonyGee has given me very specific information, and helped me with the terms. For which I am very thankful. I hope that explains where I'm coming from. No insult intended.

The other few bikes that a few suggested just aren't available, or are waaay too expensive, and they aren't complete. I don't want to spend $800 bucks on a front end, that frankly, would go on a bike that satisfies me the way it is now. The back roads of New England are awesome. There are roads here you get you bike 4 feet and land like if you were landing an aircraft (I'm a pilot, I am not exaggerating). From what I've seen on this forum, and some of the modifications people have done to their bikes just blows my mind. I would like to do that, but not to this bike. I've had it since new, I assembled it out of the crate. It's the 2nd bike I ever purchased, I still have the first. I have 3 bikes now. I would like to do something way out there, but I'm just not there yet. As far as that '83 GS750ES, I've run circles around so many people with that bike. I've had people crash behind me, trying to go through the turns. I don't know if you have actually spent any amount time on that exact bike. I have ridden some new bikes recently, I thought about purchasing my "last new bike", except for catalytic converters, Fuel Injection, there was nothing about the newer bikes that gave me an indication they were worth the close to $10K prices. Some of the 600 c.c. bikes were pretty awesome, but you had to rev the shit out of them all the time. I'm not looking for that. If and when I build the GS750ES engine, if available, I may look for cams and pistons and some flat slide carburetors, but the motor is solid now. There is one more thing, I don't have the wherewithal to go through 4 or 5 front ends to find something that may give me a single digit % difference. I'm being pragmatic about this, and in reality, if an incredible deal on a much better front end comes up, I have such little cash into this one, it doesn't exclude doing another change. Just for the record, what front end would you recommend? I am very open to ideas, and knowing what to look for gives me an edge when in looking I for that front end. My ZZR1200 fell into my lap. 3485 original miles for $2200 bucks. I found that bike when a guy sold a GS100G that he sold out from underneath me. He offered me that bike, I owned it 3 minutes later. That was last year. Just suggesting to get a more modern one is vague. Specific years and models speak volumes. That info is kind of like pulling teeth around here. I get a lot of people saying use such and such front end, and in the life of that model, there were 3 different front ends. The chart on spacing and offsets doesn't list my bike. Specifics rule, what year and model bike would you go for in my situation? Thanks for your input, and hopefully, continued input.

I'm just wishing to increase the front wheel diameter size and width. The present GS750SE forks are too narrow to take a wider rim/taller rim, (from what I've read), so people were putting the GS1150 front ends on to get a wider 16" front wheel, slips right on. The GS1150 Forks will allow a 17" wheel that's also wider. The 600 SRAD front wheel with slight brake mounting modifications will work, and keeps the bike pretty much within the parameters of what I enjoy with it now. I find the bike satisfactory now, but tire choices have become very limited. I'll future proof it with this mod, and total costs will be very little. I want to be able to put this bike back to stock. I could machine cartridge emulators in the future to improve them. Thanks for the input.

Just found, after a extremely deep search on Egag, a complete 1983-85 GS1150ES front end for $90 dollars, Sans wheel of course, but I don't need that. I was shocked at the price, plus free shipping. It looks really clean too. I wasn't planning on doing this for a while, but we'll see how things fall into place. Gotta get the parts at the right price when they come up, the wife doesn't notice anything under $100 bucks.

That's good info. After the ZZR1200 is my daily rider, I'll start out with the the GSx750. There were a couple of deals with front and back wheel. I'll do the front 1st. Then, I'll be able to do the back end without a sense of urgency. I just had to get a new chuck for my Lathe, $600 bucks (ouch!) so funds are limited, but this is a go for me. I have great measuring tools and surface, so I'll be able to check the line up. First will be centering the back rim, and seeing what's left on each side, or how it lines up. With a rotary milling table, it would be easier for me to open up the sprocket. I understand that I will have to be in the process to figure out what must be done. I like machining stuff, and doing this kind of work, especially when for myself. I'd like to do a thread on it, so anyone wanting to follow can get the info easier, though you guys have been terrific! Thanks!!

That was my next question. I don't even know where to start there. There are many of these wheels available. I'm thinking it would be the logical route. I don't know if that means necessary. Seems like it would balance things out.

I believe you're right. I heard the GSX1100 would slip right into the GSX750ESD. So this whole exercise might just be getting a Bandit 600 wheel, axle, discs, and couple of washers, tire, Brake Brackets, and elbow grease. Thanks! If you discover anything new, I'm open to it. Again, Thank You!.

Thanks, I believe the forks on the GSX1000 are larger diameter, so it would involve a set of GSX1000 forks, and triple tree set, with steering stem, from which I understand slides right into the GSX750ESD. If you can think of anything to add, I'd appreciate it. Oh, the B6 bearings are the Bandit wheels bearings? If that's correct, you've just filled in all the gaps for me. I really appreciate your help.

TonyGee : Spindle (axle bolt)? B6= Bandit wheel bearings from ( B6 = mk1 Bandit wheel)? fabricated collar to fit bottom fork clamps? Spacer to center wheel, understood. "Speedo Drive turned down a little" .........Is that the knurled part that screws the speedo drive cable into the pickup housing? (This is the part that has me stumped) Was the axle fitting the bearings and axle, but too thin in diameter to be clamped by GS1100 forks, so you made collars so that the axle could clamp to the upper fork leg lowers, and opposing fork clamps, so the could be torqued? The forks and upper and lower fork clamp with steering spindle, and fork assemblies are from GSX1100, you made brackets to align the brake calipers to line up with the Bandit Disc Brakes. That's a really nice looking bike, by the way. I hope what I'm asking makes sense (this is where the old man jokes would be well deserved) There are many Bandit 600 wheels on ebag

Just for clarification, did you use the forks and wheel off of the 600 Bandit, or just the whee, what year wheell? In other words, will the Bandit front wheel alone bolt up to the GS750ESDbike, maybe some caliper work?

Yes, for the Stem, it was dirt cheap, and came with all the stem hardware, nuts, bearings, adjuster ring, top crown nut. My wife is the owner of the Fender. I have the 5 string bass and play violin. It is amazing how much our English differs. I learned early to never ask for a "cough drop", Lozenge is the appropriate word. The 5 string Bass was made by Hohner, the same company that makes Harmonicas. They made them for around two years. Natural clear matte finish, solid one piece wood hard body. I paid very little for it. They get around 6 times as much that I paid for it on efag.

I think the ability to just sit and play music is a blast, whatever the instrument. I saw a video with Steve Howe playing a $100 dollar guitar, and he was fantastic. He said, "It's not the guitar", Steve Howe could say that with authority. The Bandit front ends out here are either still on their bikes, but there are no listings any where for virtually any years, let alone a '98. There was a rolling chassis with engine, for "Parts Only", no tank, side cover, gauges, and they were asking $2000 dollars!! This isn't a priority for me. I read somewhere that some SRAD parts could be made to fit. The bike is old, though it runs like a well taken care of sewing machine, so maybe I'll just have to keep it stock. I do get a lot of compliments on it when I ride (though they could be snickering when I leave, you never know). An easy front tire swap is very attractive though. I'd like to have more options for front tires, but the handling, well I'm so used to it, it's 2nd nature. It will be a matter of cost and availability that determines this. I can do minor machining and pressing, but do not want to modify the frame.

Hah! I actually have a pre-AMF Fender Stratocaster from the late 1960's. I have a 5 string base and 3 Violins. One is a 1947 Georgi Johanis from West Germany, very few were made, and this one is in almost new condition. I have restored a few violins. I make the bridges from scratch. I love music! The 1999 Bandit mk1 1200 will be my next parts search, this kind of information is invaluable. Thank You!

I can mount the lower triple into my lathe, use a carbide tip to cut the weld, if that doesn't work, I can mount a grinder and make a nice round grind till I get pass the weld. There's a bunch of ways to deal with that. Things is, if this set up works, I can buy a front wheel for $145 bucks from a guy and I have a full set of brakes and master cylinder. Literally the only thing I wouldn't have is a fender. At that point I'd have around $200 into the change, and the bike can be returned to original very easily. Keep the ideas coming though, because I have so little invested now, changing methods is something I'm open to, and you guys have been the most knowledgeable I've ever conversed with. That's not smoke up you arses either, it's the truth. So if I went looking for bandit parts, and wanted to avoid the modified speedo route, what year would I be looking for? I know I ask a lot, but I have a library of around 10K paper models, and that includes all the modern Sci-Fi stuff, and it's all free. P.M. me if you are interested. My forum is free to all, it's international, and we have a shitload of U.K., and EU members. I'm not looking for members, just a way of giving something back.

Found a Stem and bottom bracket from a GS700 (which is the same is the GS750ESD) and got if off of etbagy for $40 bucks, free shipping. I'll be able to press that stem out, it came with all the bolts, spacers, lock nut and top nut. Next step will be to press it into my spare ZZR1200 front end and see how it goes. This will be a way off as I have to redo the cylinder heads on my Motorhome (Caravan), as a head gasket is blown. It's a very expensive motor, 454 Chevy, 40K miles on it.. I like to tow the 2 bikes so when I get somewhere nice, I can go for a ride and look around, or in case of breakdown. There's a rim with both discs for $125 bucks. Gotta think about this. Too many projects in parallel. It may be a while. I'm not gone though!! Too many nice projects, and I'm not done lurking at all the bike pics.

I don't even need to squint to see that "Baboon's Arse" in that bike. I've never seen one other than that picture. I'm sure I could buy a bottom Yoke off of ebag from a GS750 or GS700, as they are the same, and nobody here saves the GS700's. Lots of very specific information you guys just gave me. Thank You for that. I can do threads on my lathe, I could actually make a stem, I know where to buy the proper steel, (at least these guys will tell me what to use), usually it's cheaper to buy something, as time is a knocking. I have read the rules, and don't think I have broken any. As far as the picture I posted, I don't know what they should of called that. It looks like someone took a huge lump of chewing gum and stopped when it got hard.

Well, the one I have even has Tokico 6 piston calipers, as I put NISSIN's on my ZZR1200, just have to get another front wheel. That front end cost me $150 bucks, and has adjustable rebound, upper and lowers stems. I'll be damned if I have the parts already. This should be interesting. Just have to check the bearings, and I can make sleeves and the like to make any bearing fit anything. Thanks, a lot.

There aren't a lot of Katanas in the U.S., not that people sell anyways, and when they do, they always cost a lot. I'm looking to get rid of that 16" front wheel so I have more tires available. I have a tiny machine shop, so I am not adverse to doing some "adjusting". I will consider any option, but there are so many Bandits, I need to know what model years I need to search for. I don't mind buying the parts piece meal, it's just that if I buy parts that don't work, the wife of 37 years starts to feel like a ball and chain (justifiably so) and asks why I didn't research it better. The only adjustment is the air pressure on my present forks. If I could indulge you guys to put years to look for, it would make life much easier (which by the numbers, and my present state of health, I don't have much left). I'm not adverse to mixing brands, as I will keep the stock stuff, to give my son options when he gets my shop, tools, machines, etc.. I have 3 different brand bikes. I have a spare ZZR1200 (2003) front end, if that would go on their, I'd use that!! Thanks again. Incidentally, in the U.S., we become a dumping ground for a lot of shit company by products they wouldn't get away dumping in other countries. Below is the picture of the Fugly bike the last front end pic I posted. It's hideous. It's called a Katana too. It's obviously not. IMHO. Any help is well appreciated. It's funny being called old, because I don't feel it. There are advantages. I've saved 4 lives, and been in the news for it (I didn't like that pat), stuck down in a small ravine, holding a girl's head for 45 minutes, alone, in the middle of the night, till someone finally noticed my car in the middle of the road idling (she wasn't breathing when I got to her, her neck had 3 shattered vertebrae, which I could see were shattered, so I applied a little traction, she started gasping for air, her legs were broken backwards underneath the dash. It took them 6 hours to cut her out of the car, and I was their the whole time. They said I saved her life. It wasn't me. I offered my hands for use. Most people told me they would have been scared of an explosion, or the car blowing up. Two years later, when this young cute 26 year old blonde girl walks up behind me, and thanks me for saving her life, I was flabbergasted. Her eyes were back in her skull. There was no glass in her face. Many young people are not experienced enough, just plain chicken or wouldn't know what to do. I had to chase two guys off who wanted to pull her out of the car by threatening to kill them. They later reported me to the police, and they almost got arrested. She was happy this old guy was around. "You may be an old man but you are likely to get some flak for that post! "..... I'll have the proper response. That one is free. I Administer a forum of 52K people. I know what it takes to run a forum. So next time someone wants to make a remark about my age, go ahead, if it's something I did, like a Brain fart, go at it, that shit is true, no problem. Listing the seller's bike model has nothing to do with being an "old man". I'm pretty thick skinned, but shove it up your ass, see how the comment smells, then decide if you want to post it. You can chase people out of forums too. I wrote the breakers descriptor of the bike, I've never seen one of these before, and hope to never see one again.

Found these off of a Katana, 98-06 model years. Price is $329 (273 GBP) complete with brakes. Pic below. Any opinions extremely appreciated.

'89 "GSXR11" forks are definitely becoming unobtanium. On Egay anyways. If anyone has a link to that chart that is a size the is legible, I would sure appreciate it. I will continue to look for it in the "vault. Thank You all for responding to this Yank. In 1974, when I was 16, I spent 2 and 1/2 months in Salford, outside of Manchester. I traveled, mostly by myself, all over England, and I have to say that I have since felt a special love for you all. Lots of Americans do. When I left, I was in a very somber mood, and wasn't paying attention to anything. I boarded the ferry, in a really thick fog, as we got into the channel, I saw the white edge of the continent, and I asked, "what port was that?", a man replied "Dover". I had, I was in the midst of fulling a life long dream. I was seeing the "White Cliffs of Dover". It is forever etched in my mind. I play that song on my Violin, and as a duet with my son. Everyone here has been so very kind. I sincerely Thank You for that.