spiderpig Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Anyone ran a head cooler similar to the pic? Well the question is would there be enough clearance to? Would save running lengths of oil lines to the rear subframe where I would be mounting it. Bike will have lights, so can't go there and don't think I'd have clearance to sandwich one to stock position. Quote
fatblokeonbandit Posted October 23 Posted October 23 How big is it???? What bike is it going onto??? and " would there be enough clearance to?"... what?? one of mine is under the headlight that works well. 1 Quote
clivegto Posted October 23 Posted October 23 One on my Harris Turbo never even gets hot feed pip to it does. 2 Quote
Framotors Posted October 23 Posted October 23 (edited) This is a 2019 GSX-R 1000 oilcooler on a slabside (with after market fairings I guess) Edited October 23 by Framotors 4 Quote
DAZ Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Cool idea , is the oil cooler water cooled as well ? , looking at the two larger pipes on the left side ? If so I expect the water jacket area would lower efficiency , effectively creating a blanket of warm air, but as Clive points out his doesn't get hot so probably shouldn't be an issue but I'm just thinking out loud really ..... Quote
Framotors Posted October 23 Posted October 23 5 minutes ago, DAZ said: Cool idea , is the oil cooler water cooled as well ? , looking at the two larger pipes on the left side ? If so I expect the water jacket area would lower efficiency , effectively creating a blanket of warm air, but as Clive points out his doesn't get hot so probably shouldn't be an issue but I'm just thinking out loud really ..... Are you referring to this picture? Quote
DAZ Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Yes , unless they're chunky internally threaded bosses , hard to tell on phone screen , in which case crack on and ignore my ignorance Quote
Framotors Posted October 23 Posted October 23 (edited) Here's it's more clear, I think you need something like AN8 Hose Adapters Edited October 23 by Framotors 2 Quote
spiderpig Posted October 23 Author Posted October 23 (edited) Yeah some more info would probably of helped It's going on 750k, 884 motor, full fairings, stock headlights, race seat unit, Gsxr600k3 front end. Front wheel clearance would be my concern It's listed as Gsxr1000 k9 to 16, but think all the newer ones have em. Can't find dimension atm. No water cooling in it, they are bosses. Edited October 23 by spiderpig Quote
spiderpig Posted October 23 Author Posted October 23 (edited) 4 hours ago, Framotors said: This is a 2019 GSX-R 1000 oilcooler on a slabside (with after market fairings I guess) That's exactly what I'm thinking. The torques fittings for the head rear oil feed look about right, can always have some made up if they aren't. Edited October 23 by spiderpig Quote
Duckndive Posted October 23 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, spiderpig said: That's exactly what I'm thinking. The torques fittings for the head rear oil feed look about right, can always have some made up if they aren't. Position leaves it more open to road shrapnel ... OK on a race bike where tracks are normally swept and cooler cleaned after race Quote
Dezza Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Many modern bikes have an oil cooler in that position, under the rad. Maybe a mesh grill will help protect against stones. Torques do 2 different Suzuki thingies that may work. 1) The ones that fit the cam cover on oil cooled bikes, required for the feed to the head when fitting a head cooler. 2) Fittings that enable AN type hoses to fit to a later GSXR oil cooler. They look similar but the hole spacings are different. I remember a while back someone on OSS couldn't work out why their new fittings wouldn't fit the cam cover and it turned out that they'd accidentally bought the wrong fittings. So if you use e.g. a GSXR1000 oil cooler, maybe Suzuki to cut costs use the same fittings as earlier bikes and fittings type-2 may work. 1 Quote
clivegto Posted October 24 Posted October 24 As Dezza says these fittings are a different size to the one's on the back of the cylinder head 1 Quote
spiderpig Posted October 24 Author Posted October 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, clivegto said: As Dezza says these fittings are a different size to the one's on the back of the cylinder head Aha, where did you get them Clive? Never mind, found em torques Edited October 24 by spiderpig Google Quote
DAZ Posted October 24 Posted October 24 13 hours ago, Framotors said: Here's it's more clear, I think you need something like AN8 Hose Adapters Thanks for this pic , makes it clears as day not being clued up on the watercooled bikes I thought they possibly shared the cooling duties with extra rad capacity or something - similar to how some cars have the transmission cooler integrated into the radiator Quote
Dezza Posted October 24 Posted October 24 1 hour ago, clivegto said: As Dezza says these fittings are a different size to the one's on the back of the cylinder head Torques, same as the ones that go on the cam cover. They do 2 similar looking adapters that have different mounting hole spacings. Quote
fatblokeonbandit Posted October 24 Posted October 24 (edited) Much cheaper way, the proper angled torques fittings are 25 quid these are 4.99 And Im tight Edited October 24 by fatblokeonbandit 2 Quote
clivegto Posted October 24 Posted October 24 3 hours ago, Dezza said: Torques, same as the ones that go on the cam cover. They do 2 similar looking adapters that have different mounting hole spacings. I stand corrected the cooler fittings are the same as the cam cover fittings there are different sizes as said. 5 hours ago, spiderpig said: Aha, where did you get them Clive? Never mind, found em torques Yea Torques_uk 1 Quote
Gixer1460 Posted October 24 Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, Suzukian said: A front fender helps a lot too. No it doesn't - Road + stone, sticks to tyre, flys off & hits radiator, fender (mudguard for normal people) along for the ride . . . . . fender is too late to the party! Quote
spiderpig Posted October 24 Author Posted October 24 Love acc take offs Clive but I'm going the tight FB method As for stones, they come with a wire guard from factory and I'll run a tighter mesh under it as well. Will stop anything big enough to puncture it. 2 Quote
Suzukian Posted October 25 Posted October 25 (edited) On my Suzuki, the fender doesn't let anything by, but my tiny oil cooler is mounted very high. An aluminum mesh would help protect, and assist in heat dispersion. I have an air cooled Suzuki (1983 GS750ES) so that's where I was coming from. I've seen extensions for fenders that can go almost down to the ground. Now I know why their sold. Easy enough to fabricate. I've seen some of these that you can purchase that almost go all the way down. Edited October 25 by Suzukian Quote
Dezza Posted October 25 Posted October 25 Some Ducrappy oil coolers are very similar to the one picture above and they have threads to accept AN adapters as stock, such as those for the 749/999 and 1st gen 848,1098,1198 series. Although they are eligible for AIBT (Added Italian Bike Tax), because an extra 2 expensive adapters from Torques aren't needed, one may end up costing about the same or may even be cheaper than using a GSXR1000 cooler. 1 Quote
Upshotknothole Posted October 26 Posted October 26 I think you should try it and post up the results. I've been wanting to add a top end cooler to my full faired 750M, but no room in the upper fairing with the headlights. 1 Quote
spiderpig Posted October 26 Author Posted October 26 1 hour ago, Upshotknothole said: I think you should try it and post up the results. I've been wanting to add a top end cooler to my full faired 750M, but no room in the upper fairing with the headlights. I will but rebuilding the motor at the minute. Starting to collect the parts now 1 Quote
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