Brian

[dupersunc]

59 minutes ago, fatblokeonbandit said:

Whilst in the pub avoiding football and talking bollox as usual, someone said that my frame would have been Chrome or nickle plated?? looks right, but how fekin expensive is that?? or do I do it white again

 

 

@Markz9who do Wasp use to plate their Rickman frames? 

[Markz9]

2 minutes ago, dupersunc said:

@Markz9who do Wasp use to plate their Rickman frames? 

Hi duncan I think they are called southern electro plating and they are near Salisbury 

[Dezza]

Q - How expensive is chrome plating? A - very, especially if you want it done to a high standard and triple plated, i.e. copper, nickle and then chrome. If my memory serves me correctly, Martin used to nickle plate their frames. Plating new parts is much cheaper than plating old bits as everything has to be mirror polished first. And then there may be old plating underneath to remove first so be warned .

[dupersunc]

8 hours ago, Dezza said:

Q - How expensive is chrome plating? A - very, especially if you want it done to a high standard and triple plated, i.e. copper, nickle and then chrome. If my memory serves me correctly, Martin used to nickle plate their frames. Plating new parts is much cheaper than plating old bits as everything has to be mirror polished first. And then there may be old plating underneath to remove first so be warned .

All very true. I think the the Martins were just straight Nickel plated. Chrome plating  is a big no no on stressed parts like frames as it causes a process called hydrogen embrittlement which is as bad as it sounds. Nickel plating suffers the same but to a much lesser extent.

[MeanBean49]

19 hours ago, dupersunc said:

 

Dint know why people bother when chrome powder coat is so good nowadays

Edited July 5, 2021 by MeanBean49

[fatblokeonbandit]

Yes I’ve been reading up on it, Halfords rattle can Matt black I think 

but seriously I think I’ll redo the white powder coat, or mabey silver 

[flatline]

On 6/14/2021 at 1:17 PM, fatblokeonbandit said:

So after a bit of an expedition up north, i have acquired some of  JB's Moto Martin.

I dont think ill call it Martin, Ill call it Brian

 

Anyway long term project this one, good starting point, and the R1 suspenders from the 7/11 I was doing, mostly fit.

 

the back wheel slotted in and the front just needs new sterring head taper rollers...

The Frame is 62mm I/D, slingy stem needs 25mm top and 30 mm bottom, but luckily 25/62/17.3 mm and 30/62/17.3 mm are readily available, all be it a bit pricy

 

 

 

Always liked Moto-Martin’s… I remember decades ago (early 1980’s) when I lived in Newbury I was out & about one evening.. to the south of Newbury & on the then A34 (way before the bypass was built) is the Carnarvon Arms PH… early evening, and outside were parked three immaculate ‘bikes… a Bimota (SB4?), a Harris Magnum & a Moto-Martin… a stunning line-up!! 

Thought at the time that it might have been a magazine out for a bimble… too young & whatever to go into the pub & ask!!

[dupersunc]

1 hour ago, MeanBean49 said:

Dint know why people bother when chrome powder coat is so good nowadays

Wash your mouth out.

 

[Markz9]

44 minutes ago, dupersunc said:

Wash your mouth out.

 

Urrr actually I was thinking of Nickel colour powder coating the rickman frame 

Its quite impressive stuff

[fatblokeonbandit]

Electricity.!!!

 

Mk1 bandit engine and Mk2 loom and ancillaries..

 

different plugs so all swapped over..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Fazz711]

I think chrome may also crack on a frame due to flex. 

 

Think this is why Harris, moto Martin and rickman used nicol as it tolerates flex

[Fazz711]

Forgot to add. 

A mate had a swingarm off a quad powder coated with a chrome effect powder coat and it looks grear

[fatblokeonbandit]

7 hours ago, Fazz711 said:

Forgot to add. 

A mate had a swingarm off a quad powder coated with a chrome effect powder coat and it looks grear

Any pictures????

[dupersunc]

16 hours ago, Fazz711 said:

I think chrome may also crack on a frame due to flex. 

 

Think this is why Harris, moto Martin and rickman used nicol as it tolerates flex

Nope. It's because of the hydrogen embrittlement issues mentioned earlier. 

Chrome plating is banned in motorsport because of this.

[clivegto]

Chrome powdered on one of my frames. Very shiny when first done then fades a bit, it don't like oil takes the shiny stuff away. 

[clivegto]

Black powder chrome one not tested yet on the Turbo Magnum. 

[TonyGee]

im liking that black powder chrome Clive 

[Fazz711]

6 hours ago, dupersunc said:

Nope. It's because of the hydrogen embrittlement issues mentioned earlier. 

Chrome plating is banned in motorsport because of this.

I wasn't disagreeing with you should have said that but it also cracks due to flex so another reason it's not suitable 

[fatblokeonbandit]

8 hours ago, clivegto said:

Black powder chrome one not tested yet on the Turbo Magnum. 

Bugger me thats shiny

 

where and how much shipmate??

[clivegto]

2 hours ago, fatblokeonbandit said:

Bugger me thats shiny

 

where and how much shipmate??

Arocoat in Yarmouth was a bit pricey at £250.

Edited July 9, 2021 by clivegto

[fatblokeonbandit]

4 hours ago, clivegto said:

Arocoat in Yarmouth was a bit pricey at £250.

Expensive but if its a good job its worth it

[clivegto]

53 minutes ago, fatblokeonbandit said:

Expensive but if its a good job its worth it

There was a subframe as well that's not in the picture. 

[fatblokeonbandit]

Need some oil lines

 

 

 

 

not sure about the black???

 

 

black or silver|????

 

 

[Blubber]

Black lines matter

 

The silver acts as an eyecather and therefor distract me from the rest of the features

[clivegto]

The black lines will melt if touching the exhaust, don't ask me how I know this