Larger oil coooler, GS1150

[Spirit]

I have an Earl's 16 row wide oil cooler core left over from another project. Has anyone mounted one of these (or a similar size) on a GS1150?

[Gixer1460]

Why do you need such a huge cooler? Even a race bike would be pushed to need one that big - they are called air cooled for a reason!

[wraith]

Even on my old tuned GS1000 I had a 8 row and that was more for show then it needed it, it helped on them one off very hot days.

Don't forget, the bigger the cooler the longer it will take the bike to get its oil up to temp.

[dago]

i put a bigger cooler on my efe cos i fitted a temp gauge and i was mainly riding to london and in traffic and temp was going up to 125*c, ended up putting thermo stat on it as was taking ages to get up to temp and didn't help with the overheating

[Poldark]

Riding in city traffic in Phoenix or Dubai, a huge cooler would be helpful.

[Dezza]

As we all know, fitting a fancy aftermarket oil cooler with Goodridge/Earls type hoses and fittings to an OSS bike with a massive air-cooled engine is compulsory: but not that big.....

[Blower1]

If you put oil cooler that big, you definitely need to install oil stat also.

[Captain Chaos]

21 minutes ago, Blower1 said:

If you put oil cooler that big, you definitely need to install oicooled engine also.

fixed

[johnr]

put the cooler on, it will come in handy when you fit an oilcooled engine......  ;-)

 

[ZenViking]

Just because i'm curious.  What would be considered on the other side of the scale and too small?

[Spirit]

Thanks to all on this - some of it was really useful. Here's my reality: I live in the Greater New York City area. A trip to Long Island (club meeting) which used to take me 50 minutes now takes a minimum of one hour, 15 minutes...or more. Sometimes the better part of two hours.Traffic volumes in my area have about doubled in the last ten years. Sometimes it isn't even stop and go: it's stop. That doesn't even include the rare run INTO New York City. Then, the 1150 is my "touring" bike, the only one on which I do two-up, and I don't fruit around on my rides. The standard cooler does well. The fact is, though, that I have a nice, spare cooler from my '86 GSXR1100 (put an Earl's 16 row-wide on it after a bit of a performance upgrade...) and that will go on the 1150. There won't really be a problem with warm-up time: our summers here have had way too many 90 degree (F) days for me anyway.  But since I have dual oil temp gauges on the GS, I know that temps inside can get pretty high...they are actually the best reason for a top-end oiling system. Not so much for extreme high performance, but to reduce the wear on rockers and top end parts in daily use..

[Gixer1460]

From above all I can add is - why are you sitting in traffic? You have a bike not a car - filter or avoid traffic!

Even a huge cooler will be of little use if stationary or crawling speed - any cooler needs airflow! Oil technology is far better than in the 80's , far more heat tolerant and i'm sure the factory stress tested these engines far more, for far longer than you think you are doing.

[Duckndive]

Ran a Stock cooler on this using super market 20/50 mineral oil with no problems ...

 

[Dorkburger]

13 hours ago, Gixer1460 said:

From above all I can add is - why are you sitting in traffic? You have a bike not a car - filter or avoid traffic!

Even a huge cooler will be of little use if stationary or crawling speed - any cooler needs airflow! Oil technology is far better than in the 80's , far more heat tolerant and i'm sure the factory stress tested these engines far more, for far longer than you think you are doing.

Avoid traffic in the New Jersey / New York area is damn near impossible, and filtering is illegal, not that it stops the daring from doing so. 

[Gixer1460]

I thought you were 'the land of the free' ? Not when it comes to Highways obvs!

[Ibbo]

That explains why the car drivers were getting so upset with me when i was filtering when i hired a bike over there.

 Wondered why they were so stressed about it.

[Gpz1100_Convert]

if the cooler is too big it blocks air flow over the fins.

Too big. On a positive note though it'll sell easy to a bandit owner with a streetfighter fetish and you can pick up a smaller one and pocket the change eh

Mark

[Poldark]

On 12/15/2019 at 3:59 AM, Gixer1460 said:

I thought you were 'the land of the free' ? Not when it comes to Highways obvs!

It's a mixed bag over here in the US.  50 different states with 50 different sets of laws.  I have never been to Montana, but I understand it to have the least restrictive rules of the road.  Last I heard, in New Jersey, you're not allowed to pump your own fuel.

[Duckndive]

6 hours ago, Poldark said:

Last I heard, in New Jersey, you're not allowed to pump your own fuel.

Yeap it has to be dispensed for you   ...which if you are a tourist is so much easier than the self service credit card pumps in other states that wont accept your non US registered card....   

Edited December 22, 2019 by Duckndive

[Spirit]

Two things: first, one of the previous posts is correct, it is against the law to lane split or anything like it in NY, and that includes trickling between stopped cars in traffic jams. Not only that, but to put it mildly, you may get some recoil from cage drivers in traffic, up to and including people opening doors to keep you from passing through, and outsiders may keep comments on that to themselves, that's just our reality until the law is changed.

Second, I am going to use the cooler off my '86 GSXR1100 on my 1150. I know oil technology has improved. Traffic volumes in my region have DOUBLED in the last ten years as well, and we've had some fiendishly hot summers (and recently, Springs..) so a bigger cooler can't be a bad thing, especially two-up. Thanks to all for the tech stuff. By the way, I replaced the stock GSXR cooler with an Earl's 16 row wide cooler AND a top end oiling kit AND moved the temperature sender I had in the upper oil galley to the threaded spot in the oil pan. We'll see if over cooling" is a problem, though I doubt it will be!