Arttu Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I am looking for the whole shebang for the AFR gauge, controller, sensor etc. was just looking for personal opinions. Yer I think I may be using a bracket to hold the turbo up and probably a scavenge pump.if not using the down pipes I was looking at using 2mm thick mild steel tubing for the manifold. Would that be suitable?Yes, then the MTX-L would be my choice. Most likely.2mm thick mild steel should be pretty fine. Quite popular material choice is water pipe and bends. If I recall correctly that has about 2.5mm wall thickness. It holds the turbo nicely and resists cracking really well. Quote Link to comment
slingy1157 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I have an Innovate lc1 and it's been good for the money, but have heard they can burn the sensor out in about 30 hours of use due to no control of the current to the heater in the sensor. But mine has been ok so far Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 Cheers slingy, iv read the same as well. Reading about MTX-L and it seems to be a solid choice, not heard many bad things about it and the price is reasonable as well. Can anyone shed light on what a data logger is/does and price and if it is necessary??? (Yes yes I know it logs data) guessing data from the AFM? Awaiting for Santa to come with all my goodies then can get this show on the road! Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 so for todays antics!I got my 3mm aluminium sheet through today so made my plenum. Just need to get it welded up now. Quote Link to comment
Gixer1460 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Nice - but how do you ensure they are sealed to the box once its all welded up? Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Nice - but how do you ensure they are sealed to the box once its all welded up?what do you mean by sealed to the box?? they are the stock rubbers and fit really nice and snug with the overlap inside and outside, can finger the holes to make sure they are seated properly. Quote Link to comment
Gixer1460 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 A push fit like that is airtight like a sausage in a hoola hoop when boosted air pressure is involved. Stock installation is at atmospheric pressure ie. zero - throw 1 psi at it and it'll leak like a sieve! You may get away with a liberal coating of RTV in the groove and around the rubber flanges but its got to resist any movement liable to split it putting / taking the carbs off and on. Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) A push fit like that is airtight like a sausage in a hoola hoop when boosted air pressure is involved. Stock installation is at atmospheric pressure ie. zero - throw 1 psi at it and it'll leak like a sieve! You may get away with a liberal coating of RTV in the groove and around the rubber flanges but its got to resist any movement liable to split it putting / taking the carbs off and on. hmmmmm i see what you mean. I did ask this question before weather I should use stock rubbers or put pipe on with clamps and someone said stock rubbers would be ok. I can see it being a problem further down the line. Luckily I have just enough aluminium left to make another bit for the front to weld pipes onto. Edited September 10, 2015 by majortom4 Quote Link to comment
Paulm Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Mine has stock rubbers and I have no problems at 11psi,or you could weld stubs onto the plenum and use silicon hose to join the plenum to the carbs.Paul Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Mine has stock rubbers and I have no problems at 11psi,or you could weld stubs onto the plenum and use silicon hose to join the plenum to the carbs.Paulooo ok. Is yours the same as mine with the rubbers sitting inside the plenum?? Quote Link to comment
Phill106 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I'd replace those rubbers for metal pipe the same diameter then use a bit of silicone pipe to join it to the carb. Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hmmmmm what to do what to do....well To put a bit of pipe on would mean it being 70mm OD to fill the whole as its like an egg (the same as the air box) and the carbs are 60mm...... Soooo think I'll have to re-make the faceplate with 60mm holes to put some pipe in then silicone hose from plenum to carbs. At least then I don't have to worry. But hell it was hard work making those holes in 3m aluminium with a drill and a file....... Quote Link to comment
Paulm Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) There's plenty of kits around with the stock rubbers being used,and yes they do fit into the plenum,the choice is yours really,mines been on for about 4000miles and as I've said I've had no problems,it's putting out around 200bhp at the moment,you'll enjoy it when it's built,good luck.Paul Edited September 10, 2015 by Paulm Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 There's plenty of kits around with the stock rubbers being used,and yes they do fit into the plenum,the choice is yours really,mines been on for about 4000miles and as I've said I've had no problems,it's putting out around 200bhp at the moment,you'll enjoy it when it's built,good luck.Paulhmmmmm decisions decisions. I'll see how I feel tomorrow weather I want to file out some more holes or not haha.Looking forward to 200hp :-)cheers dude Quote Link to comment
Arttu Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 A push fit like that is airtight like a sausage in a hoola hoop when boosted air pressure is involved. Stock installation is at atmospheric pressure ie. zero - throw 1 psi at it and it'll leak like a sieve! You may get away with a liberal coating of RTV in the groove and around the rubber flanges but its got to resist any movement liable to split it putting / taking the carbs off and on. I'm using similar airbox rubbers on my plenum too. Seals just fine without any additional sealant. Though I also did grooves around the holes where the lip of rubber boot sits. Actually pressure inside the plenum just pushes the rubber against the plenum wall and makes it seal even better. So if the fitment is correct I think it will work fine. And it saves some space compared to stubs and silicone hoses alternative 1 Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Hey guys. Could someone please help me out with where to run my oil feed and return for the turbo. Pictures would be awesome of where ppl have for this. Trying to find somewhere with as little modification and messing as possible.thanks in advance :-) Quote Link to comment
Gixer1460 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Oil feed from main gallery below the Ignition cover - will require adapter and either hose fitting or banjo & bolt. Return - anywhere higher than running oil level if pumped return, usually top of clutch cover is practical - requires weld on fitting or tap and fit adapter for min. dash 8 hose! Don't use the oil filler / crankcase vent - you'll need that regardless! Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Ok. What if I drilled the sump like this and put it there with a non return valve?? Would that work?? Quote Link to comment
Gixer1460 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 From my experience, one way valves aren't reliable once flow stops then the turbo fills with oil and either leaks from inlet and / or exhaust or smokes massively on start up! Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 From my experience, one way valves aren't reliable once flow stops then the turbo fills with oil and either leaks from inlet and / or exhaust or smokes massively on start up!hmmmmm ok fair enough. Will buy a 90 degree connector for my hose and drill a hole in the side casing. Is there any nice way of doing it or is it just a matter of find a spot and get drilling?? Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 O and didn't have the banjo bit so drilled and threaded the bolt from the oil bit, used an old break banjo and threaded it to fit my oil line, and drilled the inside of the banjo out to the same size as my oil line. Quote Link to comment
Captain Chaos Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 put a restriction in the oil feed to the turbo somewhere. A 0.5mm jet should do.Oil that doesn't reach the turbo doesn't need to be drained from it. Quote Link to comment
majortom4 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 put a restriction in the oil feed to the turbo somewhere. A 0.5mm jet should do.Oil that doesn't reach the turbo doesn't need to be drained from it.ok will do. Thanks Quote Link to comment
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