kemal Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 hello to everyone, i know you do not like these questions but i am interested in whether someone had any experience with the Chinese clutch and brake lever(see picture)i wanna put on my suzuki gsx1100f.. Quote Link to comment
Rhubarb Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 the saying buy cheap buy twice comes to mind Quote Link to comment
Ben Slabby Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Variable quality. I think I'd go with known manufacturers not only for decent kit but availability of spares. Quote Link to comment
Gixer1460 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 44 minutes ago, Ben Slabby said: Variable quality. I think I'd go with known manufacturers not only for decent kit but availability of spares. And when it comes to brakes...........can you afford for them to fail - EVER ? 2 Quote Link to comment
Ben Slabby Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gixer1460 said: And when it comes to brakes...........can you afford for them to fail - EVER ? Well, no. But there's tons of Chinese bikes sailing about and I haven't heard any horror stories. I think the issue is variability, like I say. A lot of manufacturers outsource to China but implement tight QC. Most wouldn't think anything of buying a branded accessory that might have been manufactured in China if it's got a recognised name on it. Quote Link to comment
Gixer1460 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 You've just said it - tight QA! For all you know these could be the 2nd's or 3rd's from Brembo or Nissin's tight QA! Quote Link to comment
Sandman Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Buy a used radial master brake pump for a modern Suzuki. GSXR 05- or later. Quote Link to comment
B12Mick Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 My mate bought a pair of them for his GSX750 - bad mistake - he had to rob the brake master cylinder off my B12 project so we could make it down to the Ace Cafe for Blue Haze Day. There was no way at all it would bleed up - we are both in the motor trade and tried all the usual tricks, bench bleeding/vac bleeding/leaving it overnight with the level cable tied back etc etc. It was eventually launched into the corner of the workshop ! Looks pretty but one POS. Stick with OEM is my advice. Quote Link to comment
no class Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) …...I hear they make nice slippers Edited December 26, 2018 by no class 1 Quote Link to comment
Captain Chaos Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 hours ago, B12Mick said: Looks pretty seriously? Quote Link to comment
B12Mick Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 4:55 PM, Captain Chaos said: seriously? My mate thought so but his were black Quote Link to comment
Crass Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Is there nothing in the rules about anodised tat? Jeez, this place is going downhill 1 Quote Link to comment
no class Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, Crass said: Is there nothing in the rules about anodised tat? Jeez, this place is going downhill Here you go.... 3 Quote Link to comment
wsn03 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Nooooooo! I went on a training course the other day, they gave a big warning about Chinese brake leavers breaking under heavy load- killed a lot of riders apparently. Dont do it!!! Quote Link to comment
vizman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 they look like sugar coated herd thinning instruments.....the only thing that would make them better is if you were to colour match the fluid. Quote Link to comment
TLRS Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 12/25/2018 at 6:51 PM, Ben Slabby said: Well, no. But there's tons of Chinese bikes sailing about and I haven't heard any horror stories. Dead men tell no tales Quote Link to comment
coombehouse Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I wouldn't trust Chinese safety critical hydraulic parts. Not worth the risk. Brake levers though are a different deal. Standard levers are made from cast alloy whereas the Chinese CNC levers are made from bar or plate allegedly 6061. It's unlikely that it would be possible to load the lever enough to break it when braking. I have been using Chinese CNC levers for a very long time without any issues. Quote Link to comment
Sam-Jaffa Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 my biggest concern wouldnt be failure but whether they can actually supply adequate pressure for a pair of 4 pot calipers, i imaging they would be very spongey, maybe have a look at standard fitment masters from other bikes as there are some ace standard ones out there! Quote Link to comment
KATANAMANGLER Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I have a hoo flung dung rear master cylinder on my race slabby but I never use it so it may have already failed for all I know. It's all good stuff up front where it counts though. 1 Quote Link to comment
dupersunc Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Chinese make aircraft parts, nuclear power plants and all sorts of safety critical stuff that has to past international standards. Such parts aren't very much cheaper than stuff sourced in Europe, If it cost pennies ask your self how much quality control has gone into the design, materials selection and QA. Like wise with Chinese billet levers, they look good, and often are mabe from decent material, doesn't mean they aren't badly designed machined so they'll lock your front brakes solid at 80mph. common sense needed here guys. Quote Link to comment
Sam-Jaffa Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 1/2/2019 at 1:54 PM, wsn03 said: Nooooooo! I went on a training course the other day, they gave a big warning about Chinese brake leavers breaking under heavy load- killed a lot of riders apparently. Dont do it!!! I must ask if there is any material refering to these breakages? I've never heard of a Chinese lever failing, I've ran them on alotbof bikes, I've even had my bike fall on another bike clutch lever first and the lever never failed Quote Link to comment
Dezza Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 West: "We want more and more consumer shite, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap." Chinese: "OK, we will make the cheap consumer shite you demand." West: "Why is there so much poor quality shite? We are innundated with this stuff. Everywhere you look, shite, shite, shite." Chinese: "Err, because you lot asked us to make all this cheap shite......." 3 Quote Link to comment
wobblegob Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Sam-Jaffa said: I must ask if there is any material refering to these breakages? I've never heard of a Chinese lever failing, I've ran them on alotbof bikes, I've even had my bike fall on another bike clutch lever first and the lever never failed I had cheap Chinese anodized levers on my old gpz9 years ago. My mate used it out on a run with me. He snapped the brake lever in his hand and ran up a grass verge, luckily he wasnt giving it much. Admittedley it was a few years ago but it has made me wary. Quote Link to comment
wsn03 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Sam-Jaffa said: I must ask if there is any material refering to these breakages? I've never heard of a Chinese lever failing, I've ran them on alotbof bikes, I've even had my bike fall on another bike clutch lever first and the lever never failed I don't have any, but when I looked on the net I found numerous bike forums with horror stories. I did enough work with Chinese manufacturers to know that material specs can be unreliable enough for me not to take a chance. The source that told us of brake lever breakages is a well known engineer in the motorbike racing world, but I'd rather not quote him. You pay your money, you take your chances Quote Link to comment
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