Slotting the timing plate?

[CockneyRick]

So to save money, was gonna slot the timing plate. 

However, having removed cover i saw this.

Not seen one like it, so is the principal the same & slot the 3 screws 5mm & turn clockwise by that amount?

Or would a change/upgrade be a good idea?

It's a GSX1100F engine  

[Simbec1863]

From memory the principle is the same, make a reference mark so you can reset back to datum just in case then slot the 3 screws and advance by your requirements for example 3-5 degrees.

Edited July 17, 2018 by Simbec1863

[CockneyRick]

Ta, was just looking at it thinking it may not turn too well.

Not as round as the ones i remember!

[Gixer1460]

1 hour ago, CockneyRick said:

Ta, was just looking at it thinking it may not turn too well.

Not as round as the ones i remember!

Its a full circle with 3 chunks cut out of it - it will turn fine!

[Foz]

Anti clockwise 

[EvilElsie]

Hello,

       Clockwise or Anticlockwise...??

My guess is Clockwise but the nice diagram above shows otherwise.....

 

Cheers, Dave

[Oilyspanner]

If you want to advance the ignition timing you need to turn the plate anti - clockwise, then the pick-up/sensor meets the crank earlier - so is advanced compared to crank position. It's all relative to crank position. If you move the mounting plate clockwise the crank will rotate further before meeting the pick-up, so ignition will be retarded (compared to crank position). It's easy to think that moving clockwise is moving it forward, so advancing timing - but if you just consider it's all relative to crank position it all makes sense.

[CockneyRick]

Here's mine done by @Rsvfletchseeing as he has tidier & steadier hands than me! 

[Swiss Toni]

Neatly done, Rick. 

[CockneyRick]

If i'd have done it with my shakes, it would have been S shaped  

[Rsvfletch]

What about the reservoir brackets?

[CockneyRick]

Not tried em yet, been in Salford all day  

[CockneyRick]

Two things i've learned in slotting this shape timing plate is:

1. The top left hole has to be cut away, it doesn't fit the obvious turn on the slot of the other 2 points. Once cut away, a 5mm washer holds it in place.

2. Next, the Op sender sits at the bottom of the plate, & once turned/advanced, the sender will not fit anymore. So you have to file a channel in it at the turn point.

 

Pics explain it better, first is std. Second is cut out & filed channel, third is fitted  

Edited July 28, 2018 by CockneyRick

[Gixer1460]

Funny never thought about that but had a look at a Dyna 2000 plate and the bottom cut doesn't look any different - maybe a tweak on the OP switch would have done the trick?

[CockneyRick]

That actually looks shorter at the bottom, so no need to cut away.  Look at LH bottom cover hole on yours & mne to where the plate is  

Not much you can do to the OP switch other that file off all the castle points!

[EvilElsie]

On ‎7‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 9:34 PM, Oilyspanner said:

If you want to advance the ignition timing you need to turn the plate anti - clockwise, then the pick-up/sensor meets the crank earlier - so is advanced compared to crank position. It's all relative to crank position. If you move the mounting plate clockwise the crank will rotate further before meeting the pick-up, so ignition will be retarded (compared to crank position). It's easy to think that moving clockwise is moving it forward, so advancing timing - but if you just consider it's all relative to crank position it all makes sense.

Of course - I really should have thought about it before I posted .  Thank you for the explanation though....

I do have a new question that might not be as stooped - off to start a new thread.....

[Gixer1460]

21 hours ago, CockneyRick said:

That actually looks shorter at the bottom, so no need to cut away.  Look at LH bottom cover hole on yours & mine to where the plate is  

Not much you can do to the OP switch other that file off all the castle points!

I thought that at first - but its the black cable sleeve that makes it look thin....... look either side, it's a wide as yours is. 

[CockneyRick]

Width wise yes the same, but i still think depth, it's shorter at the bottom. But unless you plonked one on the other, you can't tell  

 

Sold my Dyna2000 a while back, but still got the T piece!

Edited July 29, 2018 by CockneyRick

[jonny1bump]

Did some testing years and years ago and found 1 degree extra advance was all what was needed but again no 2 engines are the same depends on whole set up.

That's beauty of full programmable ignitions if you have a rich spot you can advance ignition just at that spot to try increase burn at that point.