New bandit???????

[Captain Chaos]

I said it before and I'll say it again.

On 3/18/2017 at 8:49 PM, Captain Chaos said:

 

Draw through turbo!

 

[clivegto]

14 hours ago, nlovien said:

wild idea - as you need the extra length to get the carbs into the rubbers, unbolt the rubbers from the block - fit to carb then see if you slide the whole assembly in 

You ever done that, I gave up.

[nlovien]

13 hours ago, clivegto said:

You ever done that, I gave up.

no - looked at it on my bike - hence why "wild idea"  doesn't look practical, but when yir in the shit

[fatblokeonbandit]

On 22/04/2017 at 0:11 AM, markfoggy said:

I've already said this, EFI  and what exactly is wring with modding the fins a little.

Nothing wrong with modding the fins, but 13 mm more clearance would make everything soooo much easier, and the EFI idea has been put on the " Too difficult/expensinve" pile for now

[fatblokeonbandit]

On 22/04/2017 at 10:15 AM, nlovien said:

wild idea - as you need the extra length to get the carbs into the rubbers, unbolt the rubbers from the block - fit to carb then see if you slide the whole assembly in 

Tried that, its impossible to do the bolts up, so no go

[fatblokeonbandit]

On 22/04/2017 at 7:17 AM, Gixer1460 said:

Or RS flatslides - if yer cheap! The 36mm RS's work brilliantly on Barry's Bandit - just saying like!

how much more room will they give me??? the air filters look crap all scrunched up..!!!

 

[Gixer1460]

Maybe not a lot front to back but from inlet up to top seems shorter and less bulky- see pic's. Conical K&N's may avoid the sloping frame rails. I know K&N's may not be flavour of the month but I like them and even the small cone ones will flow plenty enough air for your Bandit motor. The foamies always seem to get used and squashed into too small / problem spaces as a solution and they just look bad - as you state.

Edited April 23, 2017 by Gixer1460

[fatblokeonbandit]

16 hours ago, Gixer1460 said:

Maybe not a lot front to back but from inlet up to top seems shorter and less bulky- see pic's. Conical K&N's may avoid the sloping frame rails. I know K&N's may not be flavour of the month but I like them and even the small cone ones will flow plenty enough air for your Bandit motor. The foamies always seem to get used and squashed into too small / problem spaces as a solution and they just look bad - as you state.

 

 

I had already ordered one of the cone filters to try, I had them on my 1216 bandit for a while, but was told by the dyno bloke that they were a bit restrictive and the foam ones were better, But on the standard engine they should be ok???

 

I need to find/borrow/rent a set of the flatslides to try to see how much room there is

[Gixer1460]

Well .....as regarding restrictive or not - my turbo had a single 60mm dia. cone filter on the turbo inlet - considerably smaller than those dustbins used on race bikes - and it made 370hp without drama so I know which one I like. If you were closer you could borrow the RS40's off my bike - don't wanna get into the aggro of boxing / posting / claiming on the insurance etc. etc.!

[nlovien]

I use an ITG car filter on my KTM - works,  if you go to "view base plates" on their web sight http://itgairfilters.com/category/megaflow/ you'll get the range of sizes - the sausage filter range will be better suited - good thing is you've got to make yir own base plate to mount to the carb so in your case you could then set the filter low relative to the carb inlet to better fit the frame 

how about x 4 of these - I have used them and they worked great - can't get much smaller for the given through bore

[markfoggy]

FFS it's a Harris with a fat lump, RS 38's, short bellmouths for a bit of top end rush and a silk stocking to stop any stray kittens falling in. 

[fatblokeonbandit]

7 hours ago, markfoggy said:

FFS it's a Harris with a fat lump, RS 38's, short bellmouths for a bit of top end rush and a silk stocking to stop any stray kittens falling in. 

Fatlump........ I didnt know we had met??

[markfoggy]

Woops 

[fatblokeonbandit]

19 hours ago, nlovien said:

I use an ITG car filter on my KTM - works,  if you go to "view base plates" on their web sight http://itgairfilters.com/category/megaflow/ you'll get the range of sizes - the sausage filter range will be better suited - good thing is you've got to make yir own base plate to mount to the carb so in your case you could then set the filter low relative to the carb inlet to better fit the frame 

how about x 4 of these - I have used them and they worked great - can't get much smaller for the given through bore

I have looked at the car air filter and thye would work well, once I decide on which carbs, its the budget that's the problem!!!!!!!!

[fatblokeonbandit]

£110 plus vat plus shipping for an air filter!!!!! I think not

[nlovien]

they are mega £ but more the idea, you've got the filter material ref: your existing foamies  - going along the lines of markfoggy suggestion - add in another good post on this forum from a guy who has seen good dyno results ( better than K&N) with a really neat and cheap solution using hose expanders as velocity stacks, or you could use the std rubbers from an airbox - all yir needing is some glue - maybe a backing plate made from thin sheet or plastic to create the seal between the stacks and the foam you have

basically adapt what you have to "sock" over some kind of stack

http://www.Eblag.co.uk/itm/151315674845?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&var=450517287519&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[nlovien]

mind, the alternative option of fitting a 750 may not provide the clearance it suggests - i'm not familiar with the detail but you could loose the height advantage via a different inlet port configuration - raised inlet roof / steeper downdraft angle  - I believe this is already an issue when fitting the 750 dot heads to 1100's in some std frames

[Captain Chaos]

yes, on a 750 the carbs don't sit much lower than on an 1100. Or you would have to use an 1100 head on a 750 J/K bottom end.

Edited April 26, 2017 by Captain Chaos

[fatblokeonbandit]

Well the individual cone filter arrived, did it fit??? Did it fek.!!!!!  there's more chance of me sprouting wings out of me arse and flying to the moon.......than those working!!!!!

 

so plan D.......

[Paulm]

Blow through turbo and plenum?

[Fugly]

22 hours ago, Paulm said:

Blow through turbo and plenum?

What a great idea 

[fatblokeonbandit]

On 2017-4-27 at 4:36 PM, Paulm said:

Blow through turbo and plenum?

No No no... Im not that fat yet that i need that much power to drag my sorry arse around..

[Captain Chaos]

50 minutes ago, fatblokeonbandit said:

yet

so there's still hope

[markfoggy]

Ok, Forum whip round, this man needs pies. 

[Tony Nitrous]

Much as I love the shape of the frame / tank / suspension etc, it probably rules out my idea of making an air box to suit? Either fibreglass or alloy and just drop in a common off the shelf disposable filter.